Military Meets, Exceeds Goals

You are twisting the issue.

The issue is that the military preys on many kids who are in poverty or in a difficult situation. This is why the majority of new recruits come from lower-class neighborhoods, and minorities are represented in the military ranks at a far greater percentage that would be expected if all Americans were equally "patriotic".

There are many people who were compelled to join for patriotism. Many of these people (like Webb's) are now disillusioned and bitter toward the military.

The topic is recruitment and the question is who are the people being recruited now and what tactics are being used to recruit them.

ebrown_p wrote:

You are twisting the issue.

The issue is that the military preys on many kids who are in poverty or in a difficult situation. This is why the majority of new recruits come from lower-class neighborhoods, and minorities are represented in the military ranks at a far greater percentage that would be expected if all Americans were equally "patriotic".

There are many people who were compelled to join for patriotism. Many of these people (like Webb's) are now disillusioned and bitter toward the military.

The topic is recruitment and the question is who are the people being recruited now and what tactics are being used to recruit them.

When did Webbs son say that he was dissilusioned & bitter toward the military? I'd have to see that or hear it to believe it.

It's odd that our Military Academies have never had any problem recruiting the best and the brightest. Odd.

McGentrix wrote:

It's odd that our Military Academies have never had any problem recruiting the best and the brightest. Odd.

That's because they're being prepared for careers as officers who send the grunts to die not go in themselves so much.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

You are twisting the issue.

The issue is that the military preys on many kids who are in poverty or in a difficult situation. This is why the majority of new recruits come from lower-class neighborhoods, and minorities are represented in the military ranks at a far greater percentage that would be expected if all Americans were equally "patriotic".

There are many people who were compelled to join for patriotism. Many of these people (like Webb's) are now disillusioned and bitter toward the military.

The topic is recruitment and the question is who are the people being recruited now and what tactics are being used to recruit them.

When did Webbs son say that he was dissilusioned & bitter toward the military? I'd have to see that or hear it to believe it.

I agree with you LSM. I haven't heard that at all. In fact I'm happy with the way things have gone on my deployment. I'm looking forward to my 2nd deployment when it happens in a few years. I'm also hoping that it runs in line with my reenlistment so that I can get my reenlistment bonus tax free. If it doesn't then I'm still going to reenlist because I don't do this for the money. I like getting paid but my enlistment at the age of 30 was purely for patriotic reasons.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

It's odd that our Military Academies have never had any problem recruiting the best and the brightest. Odd.

That's because they're being prepared for careers as officers who send the grunts to die not go in themselves so much.

Very few line officers, and that's what graduates will be, don't serve on the front lines with the enlisted personnel. Even fewer graduate and get promoted to General.

After 22 years in the service and touring Viet Nam this guy is married to LSM? Jesus hasn't his life been hard enough?

McGentrix wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

It's odd that our Military Academies have never had any problem recruiting the best and the brightest. Odd.

That's because they're being prepared for careers as officers who send the grunts to die not go in themselves so much.

Very few line officers, and that's what graduates will be, don't serve on the front lines with the enlisted personnel. Even fewer graduate and get promoted to General.

You also have to remember that there are dangerous jobs that only officers do. Flying for instance is an officers job. It could be fixed wing or rotorary wing aircraft. While most of them are Warrant Officers they are officers none the less. My Platoon leader was a graduate of the Air Force Academy and opted to join the Army after school and had been flying helicopters ever sense.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

After 22 years in the service and touring Viet Nam this guy is married to LSM? Jesus hasn't his life been hard enough?

Oh please. Someone married you didn't they?

McGentrix wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

After 22 years in the service and touring Viet Nam this guy is married to LSM? Jesus hasn't his life been hard enough?

Oh please. Someone married you didn't they?

They did????

LoneStarMadam wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

After 22 years in the service and touring Viet Nam this guy is married to LSM? Jesus hasn't his life been hard enough?

Oh please. Someone married you didn't they?

They did????

Yeah go figure. A rather nice person at that. Hard to believe sometimes that someone with so much sense would attach themselves to a bear.

She is....

She is....

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

She is....

Yep, and imagine how you would react if someone came on A2K and said some real stupid shite about her? Even in jest.

Baldimo wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

You are twisting the issue.

The issue is that the military preys on many kids who are in poverty or in a difficult situation. This is why the majority of new recruits come from lower-class neighborhoods, and minorities are represented in the military ranks at a far greater percentage that would be expected if all Americans were equally "patriotic".

There are many people who were compelled to join for patriotism. Many of these people (like Webb's) are now disillusioned and bitter toward the military.

The topic is recruitment and the question is who are the people being recruited now and what tactics are being used to recruit them.

When did Webbs son say that he was dissilusioned & bitter toward the military? I'd have to see that or hear it to believe it.

I agree with you LSM. I haven't heard that at all. In fact I'm happy with the way things have gone on my deployment. I'm looking forward to my 2nd deployment when it happens in a few years. I'm also hoping that it runs in line with my reenlistment so that I can get my reenlistment bonus tax free. If it doesn't then I'm still going to reenlist because I don't do this for the money. I like getting paid but my enlistment at the age of 30 was purely for patriotic reasons.

Thanks for your service. My husband is a retired 22 year AF vet, I get really angry when people, ESPECIALLY Americans say such things (scraping the bottom of the barrel) about our military personnel. It shows a blatant hate & ignorance on their part. Our military comes from our society 7 i refuse to believe that there are more bad people than good.
My husband is also a Vietnam vet, all this filth being said about our military now has been said before, they never learn.
Good luck with the bonus, God speed on your deployment, stay safe.
Our grandson is in Afghanistan.