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Iraq, Civil war or not?

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 09:35 am
In the non-civil war. Embarrassed Three car bombs went off in a Baghdad market today. First reports were 38 killed over 100 wounded. What will it take before the Bush adrministration concedes that there is a civil war raging in Iraq?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Sat 2 Dec, 2006 06:35 pm
I actually think that victory is just around the corner.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 08:55 am
LONDON, England (AP) -- The current situation in Iraq is "much worse" than civil war, the outgoing United Nations secretary-general said in an interview broadcast Monday.

Calling the situation "extremely dangerous," Kofi Annan said that the international community must help the country to rebuild because he is uncertain Iraq can accomplish it on its own.

"Given the level of violence, the level of killing and bitterness and the way that forces are arranged against each other, a few years ago, when we had the strife in Lebanon and other places, we called that a civil war; this is much worse," Annan told the BBC.

Last week, when asked by reporters if Iraq was in civil war, Annan -- whose second five-year term as secretary-general ends December 31 -- said "almost."

"I think given the developments on the ground, unless something is done drastically and urgently to arrest the deteriorating situation, we could be there. In fact we are almost there," he said last week.

During the interview with the BBC World Service, Annan agreed when it was suggested that some Iraqis believe life is worse now than it was under Saddam Hussein's regime.

"I think they are right in the sense of the average Iraqi's life," Annan said. "If I were an average Iraqi obviously I would make the same comparison, that they had a dictator who was brutal but they had their streets, they could go out, their kids could go to school and come back home without a mother or father worrying, 'Am I going to see my child again?'

"And the Iraqi government has not been able to bring the violence under control. The society needs security and a secure environment for it to get on -- without security not much can be done -- not recovery or reconstruction."
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 11:46 am
candidone1 wrote:
I actually think that victory is just around the corner.


If we stand resolute, don't cut-and-run, and stand down as they stand up, I think our strategy for victory will ultimately win out. We'll win if we don't quit. Bring 'em on.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 02:33 pm
Smoke 'em outta ther' holes.....
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