Don't tell me there's no proof for evolution

Since it is a 50/50 proposition (matter was eternally pre-existent/ or not) then you have a 50% chance of your guess being correct. The same chance as those who disagree with you, eh?

Interesting article here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1018_041018_science_religion.html

baddog1 wrote:

Interesting article here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1018_041018_science_religion.html

It's funny that the group that worries most about science coexisting with religion, are the religious groups, not the scientists. With the exception of Dawkiins, most scientists don't rule out the possibility of God, or the value of religion (not religious dogma, but religion as a viewpoint).

Science and religion are entirely separate views on things. They can't conflict.

Science and creationism on the other hand, can conflict. It all depends on how much magic the creationist wants to assume. Otherwise, physical evidence begins to conflict with specific creationist stories.

You state that science and religion can't conflict, but that science and creationism do conflict.

Yet you have repeatedly described creationism as religion.............

looks like weve achieved no major breakthroughs.

real life wrote:

You state that science and religion can't conflict, but that science and creationism do conflict.

Yet you have repeatedly described creationism as religion.............

I'm using terminology a bit loosely, assuming that people would rely on context to follow the meaning of the conversation. But I guess you're not able to do that.

Do you really not understand the difference between religion in general, and creationism in specific? Of course Creationism is a religion, but that doesn't mean Religion and Creationism are the same thing.

looks like weve achieved no major breakthroughs.

Y'know there's a kid's song and dance group called The Wiggles. One of their members is recently taken very ill and has announced last week that he is leaving the group. Perhaps you could apply.

Welcome back, farmerman.

We had just been discussing matter.

Do you believe that matter was eternally pre-existent?

real life wrote:

Welcome back, farmerman.

We had just been discussing matter.

Do you believe that matter was eternally pre-existent?

Don't listen to him FM, 'WE' weren't discussing matter at all, only RL was discussing matter.

What 'WE' were doing was asking RL to give us examples of evidence which can be interpreted to support Creationism (a claim RL has made many times, but can't support).

And I thought we were actually going to get an interesting answer, but RL changed the subject as usual. If we play his game on the 'matter' question, and eventually corner him, I'm sure he'll change the subject again.

Now don't get squeamish Ros, I'm sure farmerman can read the thread for himself. Why are you afraid that he'll answer the question, Ros?

I'm not the one who is afraid to let another member answer.

Seriously, 'don't listen to him...........' ??

Are you unwilling to let others think for themselves?

real life wrote:

I'm not the one who is afraid to let another member answer.

No. You're the member that never answers.

real life wrote:

Y'know there's a kid's song and dance group called The Wiggles. One of their members is recently taken very ill and has announced last week that he is leaving the group. Perhaps you could apply.

I didn't know you were part of a kids song and dance group. Sorry to hear you were taken ill. Nobody can wiggle like you can RL.

rosborne979 wrote:

real life wrote:

Y'know there's a kid's song and dance group called The Wiggles. One of their members is recently taken very ill and has announced last week that he is leaving the group. Perhaps you could apply.

I didn't know you were part of a kids song and dance group. Sorry to hear you were taken ill. Nobody can wiggle like you can RL.

It won't last. There only so much "Kum Ba Yah" little Aussie kids will put up with.