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Don't tell me there's no proof for evolution

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2017 05:55 pm
@farmerman,
When two points of science seem to disagree, something will change and/or the math will show what is different and a new theory will be created. Science responds to differences, in fact IMHO, science embraces change!
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2017 06:35 pm
@BillW,
I dont think lil Cammy even would understnd the concept.

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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2017 06:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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when there is a contradiction between two branches of science, one of them is false.


A Bill said, we live for these "contradictions" because they usually present another qualification in an equation or THEORY that tightens it even further.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2017 06:38 pm
@BillW,
That's the reason we can rely on science. It will correct mistakes as they are found. There's nothing to correct religious' belief.
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 1 Nov, 2017 10:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That's the reason we can rely on science. It will correct mistakes as they are found. There's nothing to correct religious' belief.


It's difficult and takes a long time, usually, but when the vote is yes - change is in the air!
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:01 am
@farmerman,
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So you consider solar fusion as "DECAY"???. Wow, call Starkist.

Sid you not know that the cosmic log abundance of each galaxy is roughly constant? H and H2 stayed the same through time
Fusion changes the subatomic arrangements and were it not for this "DECAY" thwre would be no you.


Oh, yeah?

How many millions of years you have been observing H and H2 galaxies in order to affirm and confirm that those have not decayed?

Decaying and degenerating means losing of characteristics by all means.

When particles enter in collision and from this phenomenon particles are expelled (light particles) and these expelled particles do not return back, this is a break down, a disintegration or diminishing, a decreasing in magnitude.

All of the above are clear symptoms of decay: this is how radioactive material decays.

You know nothing of basic physics.

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Stop babbling fairy tales about nucleogenesis as , life acts against all chemical gradients while in the living state. Thats why evolution is a fact of the universe .


It is clear that there is no evolution but continued decay.

You have no valid argument against decay of elements and degeneration in species. You are done.

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remember
M( r)<> M( p)
Conservation of mass works for nucleogenesis too. As our sun ages, youll see.


What nucleogenesis is? Just a theory.

A theory indirectly based on old thoughts before the big bang, which assumed that at the beginning was an immense nebulae, and for some reason this nebulae started to rotate and formed galaxies and stars and later on planets, etc. This theory just specifies that the primeval nebulae was dense plasma.

Conservation of mass won't apply directly to the body keeping the mass forever but mass itself will be preserved as it is or in a different status, but preserved at last.

Like radioactivity decay, which releases but won't keep the expelled particles. The particles will change as well and lose properties, but each one of the released sub-particle still is in existence but is not part of the radioactive compound anymore.

This is basic physics.

If you can't understand it, then, as I just said right above, you are done... your thoughts are from a past generation of dudes with great imagination but poor basic scientific knowledge.







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cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:03 am
@cicerone imposter,
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This statement, one of them is false, was good enough to produce my good laugh for today.


I know Ciceron, I know... mostly the ignorant and the stupid laugh of anything... It's their nature...
cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:07 am
@farmerman,
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he doesnt meet knowledge hd on. He pulls stuff out his ass and hop people will buy it because he asserts it.
500 years of evolved science shows how much an item of ridicule he is.

He was making fun an declaring how E=mc^^ h no proof nor is it available for application.
Yt he basks in the correctness of Newton (So does he not know that E=mc^^ is just the bitter end of F=Ma??)

E(relativistic)=E(constant)X [Lambda] (as lmbda goes from v nd approachs (c)


No c^2 is acceptable at all.

When the same poor philosophy called relativity states that nothing is faster than c, then c^2 sucks. Period.
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:10 am
@farmerman,
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kinda seeing tht Newton and Einstein differ almost not at all when we consider the two equations solve for relativistic energy and constant enery (Newton) we have a big Duhh for these clowns that deny relativity(s /g)


Forget it.

Relativists have tried to mix themselves with Quantum Mechanics, with religion, and now, you are the last "hope", you want to coordinate relativity with Newton.

Lol.

This last message of yours show how desperate you are.

Be a man, recognize that those relativists pulled your legs.

Relativity is not science. Period.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:12 am
@cameronleon,
Only ignorant people don’t appreciate humor.
cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:23 am
@BillW,
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When two points of science seem to disagree, something will change and/or the math will show what is different and a new theory will be created. Science responds to differences, in fact IMHO, science embraces change!


Not only that evolution is false because the fact of elements decaying in the universe but also by Darwin doctrines.

Darwin clearly stated: As natural selection acts solely by accumulating slight, successive, favourable(*) variations, it can produce no great or sudden modification. It can act only by very short and slow steps (Origin of Species. Recapitulation and Conclusion).(*original writings, today is written as "favorable")

Mutations are mostly unfavorable.

Sudden changes and fast steps have been observed in species in several parts of the world.

Evolutionists found out the big error that made the theory false and changed the whole theory in the 70's calling it "the New-Darwinian theory of Evolution".

The new theory preserved the titles and subtitles of the primeval theory and changed the whole structural doctrine. Even so, the theory still is false.

At the end of the day, degeneration is the path.
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:27 am
@farmerman,
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A Bill said, we live for these "contradictions" because they usually present another qualification in an equation or THEORY that tightens it even further.


Then, THE DEGENERATION PROCESS OF LIFE IN EARTH is one, or better the one I proposed years ago, THE RECYCLING PROCESS OF LIFE ON EARTH.

Look for a better future in science and discard theories which will be false regardless of how many times you try to update them or upgrade them.

cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:28 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Only ignorant people don’t appreciate humor.


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You just made me laugh....

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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2017 10:55 am
@cameronleon,
Earth science says"the present is key to the past"?

Whats wrong with that??

So you, by the "recycling" mantra, seem to now accept atavistic traits??
ATTA boy!! Youll come a long way farther pilgrim.
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