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I Was a Big "Kramer" Fan...

 
 
snood
 
Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 11:33 am
I was one of the very late comers, when it came to appreciating Seinfeld.
But by the time it went totally into syndication, I was on board and lovin' it. I still never miss an episode, when I get a chance to catch one.

But I'll never be able to look at Kramer the same again after witnessing this **** by Michael Richards onstage at the Laugh factory:

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1772645
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 11:38 am
Oh, yuk! He must have really fallen far to have to sink to such a low. It was funny. I was just talking to my husband last night about the characters in Seinfeld, and he mentioned that he didn't know what had happened to "Kramer". I had heard some time ago that he was on Broadway in a play. But this??? Evil or Very Mad
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 11:44 am
WHOA.

Captioned, that's unusual, and appreciated.

Good to see all those people walking out on him.

He's a great physical comedian, when given a script. That was odious though.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:11 pm
I couldn't understand a word being said, and couldn't read the captions, they were all hazy....

I'll take your word for it though....there was a lot of yelling.

I don't like yelling.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:12 pm
Yeah, it was too unclear to understand a single word... Shocked
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:15 pm
http://www.playfuls.com/news_0003381_Richards_aka_Seinfelds_Kramer_in_Racist_Row.html
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:16 pm
Richards had a failed TV series after Seinfeld folded.

I loved Seinfeld from the first episode. I predicted to my wife: "I love that show; therefore it will only last half of the season." Happily, I was wrong.

The one who played Elaine is in the second season with a show of her own, but I never like to watch it.
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:19 pm
are you serious?

I really couldn't unstand much...I heard f*ck, but a lot of comedians do that.

The preview says it's racist, so it isn't hard to guess what kinds of stuff it's saying.

seriously, if there's a bunch of people being loud or talking at the same time, I have a really hard time deciphering what's being said, it get's all garbled.

I'll take everyone's word for it that Kramer has fallen on hard times.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:21 pm
You couldn't see the captions, though? It wasn't hard for me at all, but I guess I'm used to that kind of thing.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:22 pm
I never watched Seinfeld in prime time. I got caught up in it when it went to reruns. I think that besides Jerry, Elaine was the only one who still has a pretty good career. George does commercials, which pays the rent, but is probably not very satisfying creatively.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:22 pm
I am not surprised by this, because from the few times that I've seen him do interviews or just be himself, it always seemed that he was a little bit off somehow. He's a kook.

But I still love him on Seinfeld.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:27 pm
He is.

Actually, with a little tweaking I can imagine this as a Seinfeld episode. Kramer makes people laugh and suddenly gets it into his head that he can do stand-up. Then a heckler makes him go ballistic and the crowd walks out on him and he wanders off the stage, muttering to himself. The "ballistic" part would probably be a little different, but...
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:30 pm
eh....i was never much of a kramer fan anyway...too annoying.

i got bored with the whole seinfeld thing pretty quickly anyway.

then again, i'm not much for TV.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:38 pm
I am at a computer with no sound and the captions were completely unreadable.

If anyone happens upon a transcript, I'd appreciate it.

Is there no way this was satirical?

Keep in mind I have no idea what was said.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:39 pm
Phoenix's link has a lot of it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:40 pm
Thanks, soz!
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:45 pm
...fodder for incredibly interesting discussion, I'd say....
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:47 pm
How so? I don't see much potential for much of a long discussion, unless someone wants to seriously posit that he didn't slip, but was trying some avant garde irony.
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:54 pm
Did anyone consider it a slip? You don't repeat a slip five times.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 12:55 pm
Okay - insert whatever you like as a description for what he did, that isn't a wry attempt at irony.
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