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Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?

 
 
baddog1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:16 pm
Re: Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?
Setanta wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
To Unbelievers:

If your place of employment offers time off work for Easter - do you partcipate?

How about Christmas?

Do you accept a Christmas bonus (if offered)?

If yes to any of these: Why

If yes - do you consider this to be hypocritical?


This is your initial post. The pronoun "we" does not appear anywhere in that post.



Case in point setanta:

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Take your blinders off! Re-read my posts and try to do it without prejudice! For you to tell me what my intent was - is pretentious, arrogant and wrong! Nothing less.


Focus!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:22 pm
I have not only read your posts, i have quoted them. The latest bit of hilarity which you have attempted to foist on us is that you claimed that "we" are hypocrites.

I've quoted your initial post, the thesis which you wished to discuss in this thread. The pronoun "we" does not appear in that post. The pronoun you have used in that post is "you." Your obvious intent was to call on people to prove that they are not hypocrites. It is assumed in your thesis. Once again, you have begged the question.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:27 pm
Re: Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?
maporsche wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
maporsche wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
To Unbelievers:

If your place of employment offers time off work for Easter - do you partcipate?

How about Christmas?

Do you accept a Christmas bonus (if offered)?

If yes to any of these: Why

If yes - do you consider this to be hypocritical?




Wow, this is why many people cannot stand religion. What a condescending ASS!

Christmas has next to nothing to do with your Christ, and never has. The facts are
1) Christians forced others to accept Christ or BE MURDERED.
2) The Christians stole 12/25 from Pagans so that their religion would gain acceptance
3) Christ tells you to give your possessions to the poor, and you celebrate his birth by spending billions of dollars (this year an estimated $800/person) on worthless crap to give to people you barely like (if you're like most families). You could be buying food for the poor, but that Ipod is so much cooler. How **** selfish.
4) The Christmas tree has nothing to do with Christ. How many evergreen trees are there in Bethlehem?

How much CASH would Jesus spend on his buddies? What day would he have showed up in front of Best Buy for the new PS3?

Tell me please, what would Jesus want for Christmas?

You should be ashamed of yourself for asking this question, and not being able to recognize the hypocrisy that YOU exhibit by celebrating Christmas.

But, I'm sure you won't respond will you?


OK class - let's look up the definition of "condescending"!
Merriam Webster: to assume an air of superiority
Now class - re-read the post from maporsche and see if the definition applies!!! :wink:

Thanks for the additional lessons-by-example in hypocrisy, assumption and vile name-calling maporsche.

Oh yes - one more thought! Which of my statements above - is the most condescending? Oh, that's right class - BD1 did not post any statements - but asked questions.

Now (and very much unlike you) - I will answer your questions.

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How many evergreen trees are there in Bethlehem?
Not sure - haven't been. Hope to be able to go one day though - God willing! I would assume that the evergreen is of symbolic nature such as most items related to holidays.

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How much CASH would Jesus spend on his buddies?
Again - not sure. How much cash was his life worth?

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What day would he have showed up in front of Best Buy for the new PS3?
As I have no idea what a PS3 is - I cannot answer that ma.

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Tell me please, what would Jesus want for Christmas?
In my estimation - Jesus would want peace.

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You should be ashamed of yourself for asking this question, and not being able to recognize the hypocrisy that YOU exhibit by celebrating Christmas.


I very seriously doubt that you have any idea how I celebrate Christmas! Nor would you probably believe me.

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But, I'm sure you won't respond will you?
:wink: :wink: :wink:


There is nothing for me to answer in this post. You called me some names, answered some of my questions (sort of).

What would you like a response to?

How about you respond as to whether or not your consider it hypocritical of Christians who celebrate Jesus' birthday, buy buying presents instead of helping charity. Who spend billions of dollars on themselves and their families, but give nothing (or if anything, MUCH less) to the poor.

I wonder who on this board, or in this nation, celebrates Christmas in the way that one could assume Jesus would. You estimate that Jesus would want peace, so I can assume that Jesus would want Christians to promote peace as a way to celebrate his birthday. Maybe you've done a great job of promoting peace (however, if your actions are as self-righteous as this post has been, I can assume you haven't been effective), but I know plenty of Christians who are more worried about out-spending their spouse than they are about promoting peace.


1) Oh yes - one more thought! Which of my statements above - is the most condescending?

2) How much cash was his life worth?

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There is nothing for me to answer in this post. You called me some names, answered some of my questions (sort of).


What names did I call you? Now look at your post to me!

What questions did I not answer?
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baddog1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:29 pm
Setanta wrote:
I have not only read your posts, i have quoted them. The latest bit of hilarity which you have attempted to foist on us is that you claimed that "we" are hypocrites.

I've quoted your initial post, the thesis which you wished to discuss in this thread. The pronoun "we" does not appear in that post. The pronoun you have used in that post is "you." Your obvious intent was to call on people to prove that they are not hypocrites. It is assumed in your thesis. Once again, you have begged the question.


Did you ever see a dog chase it's tail?????
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:30 pm
Oh yeah, i've read a lot of your posts . . .
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baddog1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:34 pm
Setanta wrote:
Oh yeah, i've read a lot of your posts . . .


Appreciate the support.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:36 pm
baddog1 wrote:
Did you ever see a dog chase it's tail?????

By the evidence so far presented, one may conclude only that such would be an excersize of sufficient fascination to you as to compell your emulation of same.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 02:39 pm
timberlandko wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
Did you ever see a dog chase it's tail?????

By the evidence so far presented, one may conclude only that such would be an excersize of sufficient fascination to you as to compell your emulation of same.
It may or not be important to note that Timber was once an officer in the USMC; I have forgiven him but all others may not.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 05:17 pm
dyslexia wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
Did you ever see a dog chase it's tail?????

By the evidence so far presented, one may conclude only that such would be an excersize of sufficient fascination to you as to compell your emulation of same.
It may or not be important to note that Timber was once an officer in the USMC; I have forgiven him but all others may not.


Now that I know this I will not attempt to correct his spelling of exercise and compel.

By the way, this thread refers to us as "Non-believers". Let's be more PC and says we are "different believers".
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 1 Dec, 2006 05:46 pm
NickFun wrote:
I will not attempt to correct his spelling of exercise and compel ..

Oh, don't let that worry ya none; my atrocious typing, persistent failure to use "Preview", and complete disregard of Spellcheck are legendary hereabouts, and on other boards & forums as well. I do it to myself. With great regularity. Rolling Eyes
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baddog1
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 09:13 am
dyslexia wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
Did you ever see a dog chase it's tail?????

By the evidence so far presented, one may conclude only that such would be an excersize of sufficient fascination to you as to compell your emulation of same.
It may or not be important to note that Timber was once an officer in the USMC; I have forgiven him but all others may not.


Laughing That's a good one. The USMC part! :wink:
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 09:24 am
Re: Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?
baddog1 wrote:
If your place of employment offers time off work for Easter - do you partcipate?

How about Christmas?

Do you accept a Christmas bonus (if offered)?

If yes to any of these: Why

If yes - do you consider this to be hypocritical?

Yes, yes, yes, and no. Yes I accept all these things -- my employer offers them, and I don't care about the reasons for the offer. No, I don't think that's hypocritical. I'm not accepting a Christmas bonus to affirm my faith in god; I'm accepting it because my employer offers it, and I like the offer.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 10:11 am
Hey this weekend I was made aware (in conversations with my brother) of a book entitled Caesar's Messiah. Has anyone here heard of it or read it? Author Paul Williams, ISBN 9781569754573

We got a copy. It is about the theory that the Gospels were written by the Romans, 200-300 years after the birth of Christ, in order to pacify and control the Jews. In other words, that Christianity was made up by them for political reasons.

Holy sh*t!
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George
 
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Reply Thu 7 Dec, 2006 10:21 am
McTag wrote:
Hey this weekend I was made aware (in conversations with my brother) of a book entitled Caesar's Messiah. Has anyone here heard of it or read it? Author Paul Williams, ISBN 9781569754573

We got a copy. It is about the theory that the Gospels were written by the Romans, 200-300 years after the birth of Christ, in order to pacify and control the Jews. In other words, that Christianity was made up by them for political reasons.

Holy sh*t!

...and all this time I thought it was the Masons...
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 8 Dec, 2006 08:16 am
Plenty of food for thought- a rollicking good holiday read?

http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/summary.html
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baddog1
 
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Reply Fri 8 Dec, 2006 08:54 am
McTag wrote:
Plenty of food for thought- a rollicking good holiday read?

http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/summary.html


I wonder if this book will be as objective as; "Atheist Universe", and the second edition of Atheist Universe subtitled: "The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism") - all three by Ulysses Press? :wink:
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 8 Dec, 2006 09:19 am
baddog1 wrote:
McTag wrote:
Plenty of food for thought- a rollicking good holiday read?

http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/summary.html


I wonder if this book will be as objective as; "Atheist Universe", and the second edition of Atheist Universe subtitled: "The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism") - all three by Ulysses Press? :wink:


Googling them gives this:

Located in Berkeley, California, Ulysses Press began in 1983 with the publication of Hidden Hawaii, written by publisher Ray Riegert. Hidden Hawaii became an underground classic for travelers seeking a more authentic Hawaii. The guide's success launched the Hidden series, which now includes over 40 travel guides covering destinations in the U.S., Mexico, Central America and French Polynesia.

In the 1990s we began to publish a variety of titles on alternative health, fitness and spirituality for adults and teens. Subjects range from yoga and meditation to Pilates to the timeless and profound insights of Buddha, Lao Tzu and Jesus. Today Ulysses Press publishes approximately 40 titles a year with an active backlist of over 100 books.

<end>

Forty titles a year, plenty spread there. Open your mind to a new idea or two. Or not, it makes no difference to me.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 9 Dec, 2006 06:11 pm
My employer doesn't offer Christmas bonuses, but on behalf of those athiests that do, I would say that until theists can prove that they work harder, the athiest is just as entitled to any bonus. And far from being hypocritical about taking the same public holidays, it is the selfishness of the theist that demands the time to celebrate the fantasy. As an athiest, I'm only too happy to share the spoils of the lunacy. We deserve it just for putting up with the fruitcakes.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 10 Dec, 2006 01:52 pm
Marvelous, Wilso--best response yet . . .
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baddog1
 
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Reply Sun 10 Dec, 2006 03:53 pm
Wilso wrote:
...it is the selfishness of the theist that demands the time to celebrate the fantasy. As an athiest, I'm only too happy to share the spoils of the lunacy. We deserve it just for putting up with the fruitcakes.


LOL - sounds like riding on the coat-tails... of the fruitcakes to me! :wink:
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