Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?

Setanta wrote:

How typically "christian" your judgmental attitude is.

ad hominem.

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Calling people hypocrites constitutes argumentum ad hominem, too . . . sauce for the goose . . .

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Setanta wrote:

Calling people hypocrites constitutes argumentum ad hominem, too . . . sauce for the goose . . .

So you're not a hypocrite?

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Nope

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Setanta wrote:

Nope

Well then - good for you. I stand corrected. I've never met a person who's never acted in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. Smile

Wish I could say the same - about me. :wink:

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Since you cannot, i think it reasonable to assume that your hypocrisy entails the contravention of Christian principles. Matthew enjoins you to ". . . judge not lest ye be judged." Your boy Hey-Zeus says the he who is without sin should cast the first stone. You have cast the first stone with this thread, are you claiming that you are without sin?

Frankly, i find the concept ridiculous on the face of it. Everyone judges every day, and with good reason. Even among the religiously motivated, they constantly judge who is righteous and who is not--and that is the exercise in which you have been engaged here.

That constitutes hypocrisy. Whether or not you are consistently a hypocrite, which is to say, whether or not you consistently profess virtues which you do not practice, i could not say. Frankly, i'm not interested in whether or not you are, but i see rampant hypocrisy in a thread started by a Christian for no other purpose than to condemn those with whom said Christian thinks he will not agree.

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....a thread started by a Christian for no other purpose than to condemn those with whom said Christian thinks he will not agree.

And the operative word there is 'thinks'.

Joe(judgement and pre-judgement but with passion)Nation

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I love how the original intention of his post is about "Passion" and passion being forgotten when it comes to money. His first post mention's nothing of passion, and when he gets questioned about his intentions he pull a George Bush and changes the entire reasoning behind his post.

He also live in an antiquated world where end of the year bonus' are still referred to as Christmas bonus'. Do you know what else coincides with Year-End bonus', the END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. I get my bonus the 1st week of January, do I need to feel hypocritical? Is that still a Christmas bonus'.

I wonder if immigrants (legal or illegal) celebrate the 4th of July? Should they feel hypocritical?

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Setanta wrote:

Since you cannot, i think it reasonable to assume that your hypocrisy entails the contravention of Christian principles. Matthew enjoins you to ". . . judge not lest ye be judged." Your boy Hey-Zeus says the he who is without sin should cast the first stone. You have cast the first stone with this thread, are you claiming that you are without sin?

Frankly, i find the concept ridiculous on the face of it. Everyone judges every day, and with good reason. Even among the religiously motivated, they constantly judge who is righteous and who is not--and that is the exercise in which you have been engaged here.

That constitutes hypocrisy. Whether or not you are consistently a hypocrite, which is to say, whether or not you consistently profess virtues which you do not practice, i could not say. Frankly, i'm not interested in whether or not you are, but i see rampant hypocrisy in a thread started by a Christian for no other purpose than to condemn those with whom said Christian thinks he will not agree.

You continue to disregard the direct message(s) of my posts. So be it. It is MHO that you are probably upset with the reality of the results - and this is causing you discomfort. [And somehow you'll probably label this thought of mine as judgmental.] Again - so be it.

Call me whatever you like, generalize, twist words, manipulate - do whatever you feel the need to do - it does not matter to me. My intent simply is what I said - nothing more, nothing less.

Exposure means different things to different people. Some lash out, some look in the mirror, some ask for advice, some would never think of asking for advice. Such is life. :wink:

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maporsche wrote:

I love how the original intention of his post is about "Passion" and passion being forgotten when it comes to money. His first post mention's nothing of passion, and when he gets questioned about his intentions he pull a George Bush and changes the entire reasoning behind his post.

He also live in an antiquated world where end of the year bonus' are still referred to as Christmas bonus'. Do you know what else coincides with Year-End bonus', the END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. I get my bonus the 1st week of January, do I need to feel hypocritical? Is that still a Christmas bonus'.

I wonder if immigrants (legal or illegal) celebrate the 4th of July? Should they feel hypocritical?

Ah - you again. Where have you been? After posting that hostile, name-calling reply earlier on this thread, and claiming that there was no way I would reply to it - you vanished - until now. Interesting. Shocked

Why back? Why no answers to my questions from your vile reply? Confused

BTW: Many corporations consider their fiscal year to be from July 31-Aug 1! So what?

And now you bring George W. into the mix. Shocked

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baddog1 wrote:

You continue to disregard the direct message(s) of my posts. So be it.

That's a lie. The direct message of your posts is that those who do not share your superstition, but who accept the realities of a largely christian society are hypocrites. Basically, this entire exercise is name-calling against people who don't happen to entertain your personal superstition. So be it.

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It is MHO that you are probably upset with the reality of the results - and this is causing you discomfort. [And somehow you'll probably label this thought of mine as judgmental.] Again - so be it.

Not judgmental--just deluded. You have begged the question from the outset. You decided that people who take the christmas holiday, who accept an annual bonus at christmas-time are hypocrites, and have deluded yourself into claiming that the responses prove your point. You haven't absorbed the meaning of the many reasonable responses which were made to your thesis, and that's because you already decided in advance that those whom you are pleased to label "unbelievers" are hypocrites, and you won't be budged in that opinion.

One of our more articulate members who has responded reasonably to your thesis is Jewish. Do you label her an unbeliever because she happens to have different beliefs than you do? Is she a hypocrite by your criterion.

This has bascially been an exercise in mental masturbation on your part.

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Call me whatever you like, generalize, twist words, manipulate - do whatever you feel the need to do - it does not matter to me. My intent simply is what I said - nothing more, nothing less.

I indulged in no generalizations, i specifically responded to what you have posted. I didn't twist or manipulate anything--you had from the outset the object of demonstrating that those with whom you disagree are hypocrites, and no response anyone made could have changed that, because your mind was made up at the beginning, and you've begged the question from the beginning.

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Exposure means different things to different people. Some lash out, some look in the mirror, some ask for advice, some would never think of asking for advice. Such is life. (emoticon removed in the interest of good taste)

Your puerile games don't change the fact that you decided at the outset that those whom you are pleased to describe as "unbelievers" are hypocrites, and that you've done nothing in this thread but beg the question and declare that you were right all along.

A pathetic performance altogether, but not one which is unexpected from narrow-minded, self-righteous, hypocritical christianity.

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Setanta wrote:

baddog1 wrote:
You continue to disregard the direct message(s) of my posts. So be it.

That's a lie. The direct message of your posts is that those who do not share your superstition, but who accept the realities of a largely christian society are hypocrites. Basically, this entire exercise is name-calling against people who don't happen to entertain your personal superstition. So be it.

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It is MHO that you are probably upset with the reality of the results - and this is causing you discomfort. [And somehow you'll probably label this thought of mine as judgmental.] Again - so be it.

Not judgmental--just deluded. You have begged the question from the outset. You decided that people who take the christmas holiday, who accept an annual bonus at christmas-time are hypocrites, and have deluded yourself into claiming that the responses prove your point. You haven't absorbed the meaning of the many reasonable responses which were made to your thesis, and that's because you already decided in advance that those whom you are pleased to label "unbelievers" are hypocrites, and you won't be budged in that opinion.

One of our more articulate members who has responded reasonably to your thesis is Jewish. Do you label her an unbeliever because she happens to have different beliefs than you do? Is she a hypocrite by your criterion.

This has bascially been an exercise in mental masturbation on your part.

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Call me whatever you like, generalize, twist words, manipulate - do whatever you feel the need to do - it does not matter to me. My intent simply is what I said - nothing more, nothing less.

I indulged in no generalizations, i specifically responded to what you have posted. I didn't twist or manipulate anything--you had from the outset the object of demonstrating that those with whom you disagree are hypocrites, and no response anyone made could have changed that, because your mind was made up at the beginning, and you've begged the question from the beginning.

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Exposure means different things to different people. Some lash out, some look in the mirror, some ask for advice, some would never think of asking for advice. Such is life. (emoticon removed in the interest of good taste)

Your puerile games don't change the fact that you decided at the outset that those whom you are pleased to describe as "unbelievers" are hypocrites, and that you've done nothing in this thread but beg the question and declare that you were right all along.

A pathetic performance altogether, but not one which is unexpected from narrow-minded, self-righteous, hypocritical christianity.

I stopped reading where you said "Not judgmental--just deluded." Another outright lie - you clearly said otherwise in your posts.

I'm now done with you - until/unless you can learn to stop twisting my words to fit your agenda. Like I said: My position is what it is. As is yours - you simply do not like the results - IMHO! :wink:

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Re: Unbelievers: Do you participate in Easter? Christmas?
This is your initial post:

baddog1 wrote:

To Unbelievers:

If your place of employment offers time off work for Easter - do you partcipate?

How about Christmas?

Do you accept a Christmas bonus (if offered)?

If yes to any of these: Why

If yes - do you consider this to be hypocritical?

People have responded reasonably to show why they accept days off which are Christian holidays (the most compelling reason being that their place of work is not open for business on those days), and that they accept annual bonuses as their due, because all employees get such a bonus, which is considered a performance bonus.

But you have simply stated that the respondents have "proven" your thesis, and that they are hypocrites. You are a master at begging questions. There are no "results" which i don't like, there is just your deluded assumption that you have "proven" what you were prepared to believe from the outset. You were never prepared to believe anything else.