90% Of Europeans Think Global Warming Caused by Humans

This must be gun related.

Or, because people outside the USA don't believe in God

What a bunch of wimps those Europeans are!
Imagine even considering modifying your behaviour in any way to curb global warming! Unthinkable for true blue, rugged capitalists!

I'll go in the corner and shame myself for ... how long did you say, Missis?

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

But you miss my point entirely, and once again I am banging my head against a way of thinking that makes no sense whatsoever, which you exhibit repeatedly. "Government, save me from myself".

In a democracy we are the government. If you don't know that yet you have a lot to learn cj.

That is a meaningless statement. Get a govermnment agency on your ass for something the government has decided they don't like, then attempt to type that again. Don't tell me about having a lot to learn, little boy.

Capitalists are a miserable bunch, and for good reasons. Every time they have to stop at a red light or cannot smoke in an airplane, their blood pressure goes up and up. Their freedom is curbed by laws that stop people from beating their children and wives.
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Socialists support laws that are good for the majority; what a weird concept.

The fact that you gave up capitalism because it made you run red lights and beat your wife isn't the issue here. What is is your populist sheeple attitude and trying to force that on others.

These are the only two paragraphs in the linked report that seem to be making cjhsa emit even MORE carbon dioxide than the average over emitting American.


1. ".......More than two-thirds - 68 per cent - said they would either strongly or somewhat support restrictions on their behaviour and purchases in order to reduce the threat."

Restrictions on our behaviour.
This is already happening, and has been for some time. In actual fact, it has caused us to CHANGE our behaviour significantly - for the good, IMO.
For instance, we are now restricted on the volume of household waste that can be left for pickup each week. This is rubbish (garbage) that is destined for landfill, and is restricted to a certain cubic meterage. Here in most parts of the UK (and many parts of Europe) this has encouraged/forced our local councils to introduce recycling schemes, which in my area (London) means that I now have three different recycling bins which take .....Bin 1. Paper (all kinds, including newspapers), Bin 2. All plastic bottles and tin cans, and Bin 3. All glass bottles and jars.
All of my three bins are pretty much full to the brim when they are picked up each week. It causes me a tiny bit more effort, but the major benefits of having this vast amount of garbage being recycled, rather than just being dumped into an open pit and then buried, far outweighs this small extra hassle I'm caused.
My garden waste now goes into a large green hopper (again, picked up each week by the council) and is taken away to a large processing centre, where it is mulched. It's then left to rot down and turned into compost, and sold back to the public to be put back on our gardens.
Before the green hopper scheme, most of the London garden waste would have been burned on thousands of individual bonfires, adding a significant amount of pollution to the atmosphere.

Without this "legislation", the local councils would not have been so "encouraged" to introduce these recycling schemes, and we (the public) would not have been so green "aware", being the normal lazy human beings that we are.

Because of this legislation, I now find it totally alien to place ANYTHING in the landfill bin, that could possibly be recycled. The whole profile of the importance of recycling has been raised significantly in my brain.

So.....this is a bad thing....how?


......"The poll also found Europeans were more willing to accept curbs on their lifestyles in principle than to endorse specific additional burdens."


I take this to mean that we would prefer to be proactive when it comes to "green" behaviour, rather than pay extra taxes for someone to do the cleaning up, due to our polluting behaviour.

Sounds quite reasonable to me.



So.................being one of the people who are among the worst polluters (per capita) in the world, what are YOU doing personally ....OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL, to look after YOUR corner of our planet?....

I agree with LE about the garbage/recycling issue. In Toronto, on one week, one can put out "garbage," undifferentiated. There is a move to restrict the amount of "garbage" which can be left on the kerb, and some municipalities in Ontario now follow the scheme proposed for Toronto, which is to charge one dollar per bag in excess of the maximum. On the weeks on which "garbage" is put out, yard waste bags can be put out (this is the equivalent of LE's green bin). On alternate weeks, one puts out one's recycling. On certain days (a calendar is provided by the city), various types of "trash" which don't otherwise qualify, such as worn or broken furniture or appliances, can be put out. However, most people put such items out on the night before garbage collection, and the rag man comes around to pick them up. If they're still there in the morning, they can't and don't expect to have them picked up.

There are also green bins in Toronto, and they are put out each week, and contain what used to be referred to in the Army as "edible garbage"--kitchen waste, vegetable trimmings, pet manure.

In Hilliard, Ohio, we throw everything, undifferentiated, into dumpsters, which are picked up once per week. On north High Street in Columbus, at the intersection of North Broadway, there is a Kroger store, in the parking lot of which are large recycling bins--and it is entirely voluntary. That is in the Clintonville area, and there are a lot of folks who are willing to recycle--but it is entirely voluntary. I'm sure there are other such sites in Columbus, but the point is that it is haphazard and voluntary, not mandated.

Toronto has been looking at various was to "tweak" their waste collection, because they had been shipping landfill material to the state of Michigan (at a great cost), but then Michigan citizens became resentful. So, they bought a landfill near London Ontario (about one hundred miles west), and got a similar reaction.

The United States still has plenty of small, relatively pristine areas which can be befouled by thoughtless citizens with their garbage by being turned into landfills. However, that option is disappearing, and, increasingly, people are displaying a "not in my backyard" attitude.

The green hopper on the right, is the one for the garden waste (including "edible" waste as mentioned by Set....i forgot that bit)



This used to be the size of my household "garbage" hopper, before the new EU legislation. I was also allowed to place any amount of plastic garbage bags(and I did quite regularly, believe me) by the side of it, if neccesary. So basically, there were NO restrictions on the amount of household "landfill" waste that I could leave out, in the bad old days.

Now, my household "landfill" waste hopper is the one on the left. It's roughly half the capacity of my old "pre legislation" hopper, and if I want to leave anything over and above this amount, I have to pay £2 for every plastic rubbish bag, which is purchased and supplied by the council.

Now......"post" legislation....and a hell of a lot more "green" minded, the black hopper is sometimes only half filled when they come to take it away.

Just inside our porch (the most convenient place for us)....are the three recycling bins.....I'm certain that the council wouldn't have dreamt of introducing these, had the new legislation not been in place....

This article shows that we could cut fuel consumption in half and clean up the air and our act.
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Giving in to lobbyists is the capitalist way. It does little to help the general population.
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The so-called 'sheeples' are the poor saps who believe all those lies coming out of Washington.
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Significant fuel economy improvements would dwarf supplies obtained from proposed expansion into environmentally sensitive areas such as the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. In 18 years the United States will have saved more than four times the oil available in the Arctic Refuge at today's oil prices. In that same year, we would save more than 10 times what the Arctic would be producing each day if development were begun there today.
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Fuel savings would be accompanied by billions of dollars in savings each year through reduced fuel costs, along with the creation of a significant number of new jobs. By 2010, consumers could be saving $9.8 billion per year. This figure would rise to over $28 billion by 2020. These savings, along with the investments automobile manufacturers would make to improve fuel economy, could be returned to the nation's economy, with a resulting increase of over 40,000 jobs in the automobile industry by 2010, ultimately reaching over 100,000 new automobile industry jobs by 2020.
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http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/fuel_economy/drilling-in-detroit.html

Do any of you ever get more than a few feet away from your recycling bins? Geesh, give them a hug for me then get off your lazy asses and go hunting or something.

Hunting as a cure for global warming... What a totally unique idea!

And by unique I mean both odd and useless.

Odd and useless, kinda like you, creep.

Hey, if your community supports recycling, then by all means, do so. But once again urbanites seem to think that everyone has access to the same services they do. It simply isn't true. Most communities in the U.S. with less than a quarter million people don't have free recycling, and people won't pay to do it especially when garbage pickup is cheaper. If you lived in a small town, and the feds told you you have to provide recycling for your citizens and that they must participate, yet you had no facilities for the task, what would you do? I can tell you exactly what many would do, pick up the recycling with the garbage truck and take it to the landfill, and charge more for it.

Have you considered skipping the hunting for a weekend and taking an English class?

"Contributes to" does not equal "caused by."