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Mon 6 Nov, 2006 02:07 pm
During Saddam 's regime,
he murdered many 1000s of Iraqians,
by the cruelest means, e.g., running them thru
industrial strength shredders, while yet thay lived,
with their families being forced to witness,
or
after taking and killing the wife and mother
of a household, forcing her surviving husband n children
to keep up a sign in front of their home,
cruelly denouncing their deceased wife n mother, etc.
In contemplation that the US Constitution
( including its 8th Amendment ) does not apply in Iraq,
shud more creative punishment be employed to at least SYMBOLICLY,
vindicate his victims and render them or their survivors
a better degree of satisfaction ?
For instance,
after future trials, perhaps his sentence shud be
that he be invited to follow a jeep, with his hands in chains,
and his victims, or their sons or other surviving family members,
be allowed to follow him thru the streets of Bagdad,
kicking him in the hind end, on his way to the gallows ?
There can be an overlap
between vengeance and justice.
There is no punishment that cud possibly
even the score for the sadism that he inflicted upon his victims
and their families.
In light of what he has done,
does FAIRNESS require that his victims be permitted
some degree of compensatory counter-sadism, at least symbolicly ?
I guess we should consider what the Iraqians really want....
Cycloptichorn
ps. you are mentally disturbed, friend. Seek help immediately
And yet we claim that Americans are not barbarians.
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I guess we should consider what the Iraqians really want....
... and what the relevant Iraquian law says.
OmSigDAVID wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:
I guess we should consider what the Iraqians really want....
It is an Iraqian court.
I guess that thay will do whatever thay decide to DO.
My thread seeks to consider the definitions of fairness n justice
as thay apply to the victims of Saddam.
Cycloptichorn
ps. you are mentally disturbed, friend.
P.S.: I deny that I am disturbed,
and I deny that I am your friend.
Sheesh
Okay, because I do consider myself to be friendly towards you,
I'll help you out by pointing out that the term is
Iraqi, not
Iraqian.
Perhaps now we can continue the discussion without you seeming unintelligent.
Cycloptichorn
Your concept of laws is ... well, chaotic for someone who studied law outsite the USA.
OmSigDAVID wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:OmSigDAVID wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:
I guess we should consider what the Iraqians really want....
It is an Iraqian court.
I guess that thay will do whatever thay decide to DO.
My thread seeks to consider the definitions of fairness n justice
as thay apply to the victims of Saddam.
Cycloptichorn
ps. you are mentally disturbed, friend.
P.S.: I deny that I am disturbed,
and I deny that I am your friend.
Sheesh
Okay, because I do consider myself to be friendly towards you,
I'll help you out by pointing out that the term is
Iraqi, not
Iraqian.
Perhaps now we can continue the discussion without you seeming
unintelligent.
Yeah, not " unintelligent " just " mentally disturbed " because u r so FRIENDLY.
Cycloptichorn
I am of the opinion that ANYTHING
is open to dispassionate philosophical discussion,
including vengeance and justice for Saddam 's victims and their families.
If u have an opposing point of vu,
u shud express it POLITELY. I presume that u r able to do that.
Your intense hostility and rudeness
indicates that u believe that only issues that u LIKE shud be posted.
From that position, I dissent.
I can't do anything about your psychological problems, sorry; correcting your language is about all the help that I can give.
You shouldn't feel bad, though, because psychological issues are quite common amongst American adults and should not have the stigma attached to them that they do. If you would consult a professional about your issues, you would probably feel much better.
Of course, the choice is yours.
On the issue of the thread, if you want to have a conversation with adults, perhaps you could attempt to write in an adult fashion. Until then, I'm sure there's some group of ten-year olds who would love to talk about the issues of the day with you, and you may be more comfortable dealing with someone more on your own linguistic level.
Cycloptichorn
By ur repeated laziness in grammer and spelling,
u have forfeited all respect for urself.
Speak like a child, get treated like a child, simple as that.
Cycloptichorn
Walter, I always thought our laws in the US to be chaotic.
David, how many people have you killed this week?
I'm sure the issue of Saddam's death penalty is one of much interest to Iraqis, and as in all issues concerning citizens of any country, they have their supporters and detractors on this issue.
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