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Soldiers in revolt: Hundreds appeal to Congress to end war

 
 
Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 04:59 pm
Soldiers in Revolt: 346 active-duty troops call to end the U.S. occupation of Iraq

Christian Avard
Published: Wednesday October 25, 2006

For the first time since the U.S. invasion of Iraq, active-duty members of the military are publicly appealing members of Congress to end the U.S. occupation, RAW STORY has learned.

Under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act (DOD directive 7050.6), active-duty military, National Guard, and Reservists can send a protected communication to a member of Congress regarding any subject without reprisal.

Earlier this week, 65 military service members and National Guardsmen sent appeals for redress to members of Congress to urge an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. That total is now up to 346 service men and women, 125 of whom are on active duty.

Three active-duty servicemen (one of whom spoke under condition of anonymity) held a press conference today, along with a retired Judge Advocate General lawyer, to discuss their appeals.

"Many of us--who have to follow orders and took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic--[also] have reservations about the orders. And," Jonathan Hutto, a Navy Seaman based in Norfolk, Virginia, concluded, "at this point some of us feel compelled to let our reservations be known and that the occupation should come to an end right now."

Hutto added the group are not pacifists or conscientious objectors and are not urging any actions that might be deemed illegal.

The grievances

Liam Madden, a Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps stationed at Quantico, continued, "The real grievances are, if democracy is our goal than I believe we are going about it all wrong. The occupation is perpetuating more violence and I think is the biggest destabilizing thing we can do to the Middle East."

One service member, who spoke on the condition of anonymity of her recent year in Iraq, said that she "was hit by IEDs, by mortars... I was hit by snipers in my convoy and I've seen friends injured and affected by deaths in my brigade and my unit. I can tell you that many of them are not quite sure what their purpose or focus is now.

"A lot of people don't want to admit it," she insisted, "but we are stuck in a civil war and it's hard for the soldiers seeing the ethnic fighting going on around them and feeling like they're stuck in the cross fire and not really feeling like there's anything they can do to stop it.

"And it's very frustrating to go out in convoys and get hit and not really sure why it is and not seeing any tangible results for their actions," she added. "I think it's very important that Congress members and people understand that we do have a voice, and pay attention to our surroundings and what's going on--and listen to what we have to say."

Appealing for redress

Hutto explained that the idea of issuing Appeals for Redress originated in early 2006, when he was deployed off the coast of Iraq on the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt.

"An old buddy of mine, who was a member of the GI movement back in the early 1970s," Hutto explained, "sent me a 30th anniversary copy of Soldiers in Revolt, written by David Cortwright. The book chronicles the GI movement within the military during the Vietnam War who advocated to end that war and bring the troops home."

Hutto continued, "One of the avenues that they used, which was a legal one, is appealing to their political leaders in Washington. By 1971 over 250,000 of these active duty servicemen had appealed to the Congress people."

"None of the Marines know that there is a policy available to them," Madden added, "and that it's everybody's duty to support democracy and do it much more effectively than we are in exercising these rights in Iraq."

J.E. McNeil, a former military JAG lawyer, emphasized that all servicemen and women still have their rights as U.S. citizens and can exercise them when need be.

"When men and women join the military and put on the uniform, they don't give up their rights as U.S. citizens," said McNeil, though "there may be some small limitations to their first amendment rights."

"They are supposed to be very clear," McNeil elaborated, "and they have been, that they're speaking on their own behalf and not using any of the military resources to make these statements that are their own beliefs, and we should be very proud of them to do that."

Fear of reprisal

Many in the military fear reprisals for coming forth, even though they have the legal right to do so.

One soldier in the Army, who participated anonymously in the press conference, had more information to reveal, saying, "Anyone who's been involved in the military does know there are informal means of punitive actions that circumvent the legal system which are often used in different means to intimidate soldiers."

"I've talked to numerous soldiers," the anonymous soldier said, "and obviously looking at the numbers now, they obviously haven't stepped forward. I will tell you, though--and I don't think the American Public realizes--just how many soldiers and service members in general really do have reservations about the actions going on in Iraq.

"And fear," she added, is a main reason why people aren't stepping forward.... I think that once they start seeing momentum going forward and more and more service members come out, that they will be more inclined to come out as well."

"It's costing way too many humans, Iraqi civilians, and American service member lives," Madden concluded, "and brings us no benefits. The only people who benefit in my eyes are corporations like Halliburton. I don't think that war is being paid for in the right manner and I think that if people want to support the troops then they should support us coming home."

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 05:02 pm
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"at this point some of us feel compelled to let our reservations be known and that the occupation should come to an end right now."


As my young cousin said the other day,

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It's on now, b*tches!


Cycloptichorn
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 05:31 pm
U.S. generals call for Democratic takeover
Disgusted with the leadership of the Iraq war, two retired generals say the GOP must go. Plus: More than 100 current military personnel join a campaign to get the U.S. out of Iraq -- now.

By Mark Benjamin http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/10/25/generals/index.html
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 05:45 pm
This story is incredible. I've never seen so many presently-serving soldiers speak agianst an action like this.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 05:47 pm
It's the times we live in.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 05:52 pm
It's the war we're engaged in.

Cycloptichorn
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 06:05 pm
You do support our troops...
.... don't you McGentrix?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 06:12 pm
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 06:20 pm
Good old Virginia. Now I will follow through on my vote tomorrow.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 06:27 pm
Freedom On the March
Guess what websites are being blocked by the Pentagon to make sure U.S. troops in Iraq don't get any big ideas?

One hint: Free Republic is coming through loud and clear! A Marine writes Wonkette:I am currently stationed in Al Taqaddam, Iraq with the Marines…you've done a short piece about this before, but this is getting ridiculous.

It seems that every non-conservative politics website has been blocked by our firewall guys…including your site. The reason it is blocked is because it is a "personal page." Which means they don't have a reason to block it … but they want to block it, so they do. This was done recently, just in time for mid-term elections. As I said, it was not only your website, I have gone through lists of liberal sites and most of them are blocked. I've also taken the time to go to some conservative sites….none of which are blocked.

I don't have the words to describe how I feel. They have sent me to this desert three times…each time saying that we are defending freedom…which is BS and everyone knows it. And on top of that they have taken away many of the freedoms that we are supposedly fighting for….

I don't think there is much anyone can do about this, but I just wanted you to know that this was still going on.READ MORE: censorship, iraq, pentagon, war, wonkette http://wonkette.com/politics/war/freedom-on-the-march-209861.php
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 08:14 pm
Such bullshit. I sure hope we can get the House, so at least we can have a little oversight.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 08:17 pm
I say send W to Iraq to complete the year he skipped on his Texas National Guard duty. The War in Iraq will end one way or another. If he does that then I praise himfor he has regained his manhood.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 08:20 pm
Check this out!

http://sirnosir.com/
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 25 Oct, 2006 08:43 pm
Yeah, I heard about this during the Kerry campaign.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 07:09 am
U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

October 25, 2006, 16 hours, 45 minutes and 9 seconds ago.

By (AND) - www.andnetwork.com

An overwhelming majority, 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the year. Among Reserves 90% favor withdrawal compared to 83% of the National Guard, 70% of the Army, and 58% of the Marines. Moreover, about three-quarters of National Guard and Reserve units favor withdrawal within 6 months.

A poll by La Moyne College and Zogby of active duty troops in Iraq shows a huge disconnect between the Commander in Chief and his troops in battle. It is evident that the President views the war very differently then the troops on the ground. The loss of the troops may be the final straw in the illegal occupation turned into a failed war. The foreign policy establishment had already told the President they thought the Iraq War was a mistake. The people have been saying the war was a mistake. All that is left are President Bush and the hawkish leaders of the two parties - only they are calling for staying the course or sending more troops. Support for rapid withdrawal in the Zogby survey of troops, three-quarters of whom had served two or more tours of duty, was even higher than among the U.S. public. A majority of the US public (almost 60%) now believes that the troops should be withdrawn this year. Moreover, almost half of the public say that the US should never have invaded and troops should be withdrawn immediately. The view of the troops is more in accord with that of Democrat or progressive voters, 80% of whom favor rapid withdrawal. In contrast Republican voters (41%) are less inclined for withdrawal. Support for the administrations' performance in Iraq is waning among military officers as well http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2005_main.php . The poll also shows that the troops are confused by the mission in Iraq. Forty-two percent acknowledge their confusion. And, while 58% think they know why they are there in fact they are acting on inaccurate information. When troops are asked why they are in Iraq, 85% said it was "to retaliate for Saddam's roll in the 9-11 attacks" - when in fact Sadam had no role in 9-11. And, 77% of soldiers thought it was "to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq" - again Sadam and al Qaeda were never allies, indeed they were enemies, the latter secular and the former religious. The troops have figured out that they are not there for the reason stated by the President - 93% recognize they are not there to remove weapons of mass destruction. The vast majority (76%) also do not believe that the United States is establishing a democracy that can be a model for the Arab world. But they do not accept that securing oil was the major purpose - only 11% accept that rationale. Sadly, the Pentagon dismissed the findings saying "It shouldn't surprise anybody that a deployed soldier would rather be at home than deployed." And, "I don't think anybody is getting alarmed over any one poll." The message they are sending to the soldiers is that their commanders are not listening to the troops on the ground. The Zogby Poll http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 08:55 am
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WASHINGTON - The U.S. Army recruited more than 2,600 soldiers under new lower aptitude standards this year, helping the service beat its goal of 80,000 recruits in the throes of an unpopular war and mounting casualties.

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Bring the fatter, poorer and less bright as the next generation of lock stepping cannon fodder. It's very sad.....
I'm glad to hear some opinions from within speaking out.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 08:57 am
candidone1 wrote:
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WASHINGTON - The U.S. Army recruited more than 2,600 soldiers under new lower aptitude standards this year, helping the service beat its goal of 80,000 recruits in the throes of an unpopular war and mounting casualties.

Source

Bring the fatter, poorer and less bright as the next generation of lock stepping cannon fodder. It's very sad.....
I'm glad to hear some opinions from within speaking out.


Perhaps it is the fatter, poorer and less bright ones speaking out? You don't seem to think too highly of America's soldiers or those that volunteer to serve.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 09:00 am
You missed the point by a mile.
They are lowering the requirements for getting into the army because they can't meet recruitment targets because the war is so unpopular.
You no longer have to be as smart and no longer have to be as fit to get in.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 09:42 am
snood wrote:
Yeah, I heard about this during the Kerry campaign.
The Vietnam syndrome is back. That's what ende the the vietnam war. When the ball starts rolling the scale will tip and everybody will get on the band wagon to end the war as they did to start the war.

"By God We've kicked the Vietnam Syndrome once and for all." -1991, President Bush Sr.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 26 Oct, 2006 09:49 am
I posted this on A2K some time ago.......but it's always worth watching again, IMO.

Soldiers March against Iraq War....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da68003dd20/bb/09012da68003deb7_16x9_bb.asx
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