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Any serious Christians left?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:27 am
Ooops! Sorry 'bout that, Intrepid. My mistake and apology.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:30 am
In both examples from above then press secretary Scott McClellan denied Bush had made those claims. In the first instance he said he'd never heard Bush say such a thing (although he wasn't present at the meeting) and in the second case he denies it on Bush's behalf but to my knowledge GWB never denied either statement.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:31 am
Why in the name of god do you always have to stir the pot, cicerone?

We were having a nice, civil conversation here and then you barge in and start defaming poor intrepid.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:33 am
JPB wrote:
He has said as much, Intrepid. We invaded Iraq because God told him to!!!!

You'll find that to be a meme, originating in a BBC piece quoting - out of context - an otherwise uncorroborated statement from Palestinian functionary Nabil Shaath, then taken up and eagerly embraced by Islamists and Bushophobes. No record of Bush ever having said any such thing is to be found and Shaath himself since has gone on record that Bush said no such thing.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:37 am
timberlandko wrote:
... and Shaath himself since has gone on record that Bush said no such thing.
I haven't seen any denials other than from the White House. Do you have a source for that?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:40 am
Bush: God told me to invade Iraq

08.10.05
By Rupert Cornwell


President George W. Bush has claimed God told him to invade Iraq and attack Afghanistan, as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and Palestinian independence.

The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a new BBC series.

The broadcast came on the day Mr Bush launched an impassioned attack in Washington on Islamic militants, likening their ideology to communism, and accusing them of seeking to "enslave whole nations" and set up a radical Islamic empire "that spans from Spain to Indonesia".

In the programme, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, former Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former Prime Minister and now Palestinian President, that "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq', and I did."

And Bush is quoted as telling the two men, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And by God, I'm gonna do it."

The BBC reported that the White House had dismissed the allegations as "absurd". "He's never made such comments," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given that throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith.

He told Bob Woodward - whose 2004 book Plan of Attack is the definitive account of the road to war in Iraq - that after giving the order to invade, he walked in the White House garden, praying "that our troops be safe, be protected by the Almighty". He told Woodward, "I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will. I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness."

- INDEPENDENT

However, I'm pretty sure Bush Jr said he communicates with god more than his father - or somewhat similar.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 09:44 am
Quote:
"... We felt he was saying that he had a mission, a commitment, his faith in God would inspire him ... rather than a metaphysical whisper in his ear."
Nabil Shaath
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 10:52 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
JBP wrote: And she chooses to remain ingnorant of the dangers of the inroads that have been made towards a theocracy in this country, primarily IMO because the inroads made support her christian agenda. I don't care which genre of theocracy we're talking about, they all should be equally challenged by Americans who support democracy.

It's not only AM that doesn't realize the dangers of a christian theocracy in the US, it includes Intrepid and a few others like real life. They wish to impose their christian beliefs on all citizens irregardless of the individual's different religion or atheist belief.

They will never see the danger in their "conscience."


C.I.

If you continue to make your slanderous and untrue remarks...I WILL report you. You are unable to provide even one piece of evidence that I ever tried to impose my beliefs on anybody. Why? Because I have never done that.

I would strongly suggest that you think before you type.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 10:57 am
Intrepid wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
JBP wrote: And she chooses to remain ingnorant of the dangers of the inroads that have been made towards a theocracy in this country, primarily IMO because the inroads made support her christian agenda. I don't care which genre of theocracy we're talking about, they all should be equally challenged by Americans who support democracy.

It's not only AM that doesn't realize the dangers of a christian theocracy in the US, it includes Intrepid and a few others like real life. They wish to impose their christian beliefs on all citizens irregardless of the individual's different religion or atheist belief.

They will never see the danger in their "conscience."


C.I.

If you continue to make your slanderous and untrue remarks...I WILL report you. You are unable to provide even one piece of evidence that I ever tried to impose my beliefs on anybody. Why? Because I have never done that.

I would strongly suggest that you think before you type.

If everone did that there would be no forum for a2k.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 10:58 am
Fascinating.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:01 am
Intrepid wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
JBP wrote: And she chooses to remain ingnorant of the dangers of the inroads that have been made towards a theocracy in this country, primarily IMO because the inroads made support her christian agenda. I don't care which genre of theocracy we're talking about, they all should be equally challenged by Americans who support democracy.

It's not only AM that doesn't realize the dangers of a christian theocracy in the US, it includes Intrepid and a few others like real life. They wish to impose their christian beliefs on all citizens irregardless of the individual's different religion or atheist belief.

They will never see the danger in their "conscience."


C.I.

If you continue to make your slanderous and untrue remarks...I WILL report you. You are unable to provide even one piece of evidence that I ever tried to impose my beliefs on anybody. Why? Because I have never done that.

I would strongly suggest that you think before you type.


C'mon, intrepid, he meant nothing by that remark. Cicerone is a good guy.

Group hug?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:06 am
Hey, I have been having some nice interactions with Intrepid, and although we don't agree on some things, I think that he is a reasonable human being.

I'll vote for a group hug too! Very Happy


(((((HUG)))))
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:15 am
Any time I can involve myself in a group hug and have the opportunity to grope Phoenix, well... I'm all for it.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:43 am
Count me in on the group hug. Then y'all can brag about being hugged by a clown. It'll give ya a nice warm feeling inside. Unless you're scared of clowns, in which case you may need to seek counseling after the group hug.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:49 am
a beautiful woman, a clown, and a hog farmer in a group hug

(that is a fetish no counselor has ever dealt with)
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:51 am
That would be one for the professional journals, wouldn't it? I always wanted to be the subject of a case study. Who knew I just needed to find the right cohorts.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:53 am
It seems apologies to Intrepid doesn't mean much:

Posted: October 31st 2006, 12:27 Post: 2350607 -
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Ooops! Sorry 'bout that, Intrepid. My mistake and apology.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 11:55 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
It seems apologies to Intrepid doesn't mean much:

Posted: October 31st 2006, 12:27 Post: 2350607 -
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Ooops! Sorry 'bout that, Intrepid. My mistake and apology.


I didn't see that. Thank you.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 12:05 pm
You're welcome. Wink
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 31 Oct, 2006 01:04 pm
This will probably be my only chance to get a hug from gus so I'm in!!
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