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Any serious Christians left?

 
 
real life
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 01:33 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
What makes you think it's "my" democratic congresss? Are you a fool?
Congress has a lower performance rating than 8ush, and you should know by now what I think about Bush.


Did you vote Democrat or Republican for your US Congress seat and your 2 US Senators in the most recent elections?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 03:22 pm
It doesn't matter who the American voters voted for into congress: the majority now find the congress to be ineffective and non-performing for their responsibilities. The majority of republicans who voted for Bush now think different, and his performance rating is also very low. Doesn't matter who voted him in; he's still there to do damage to our country and the world.
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 04:58 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
It doesn't matter who the American voters voted for into congress.....


I asked who YOU voted for.

You are trying to distance yourself from the Democratic Congress.

Did you vote Democratic for the US Congressional seat from your district?

Did you vote Democratic for the 2 US Senate seats from your state?

Why are you dancing around to avoid taking responsibility for the actions of those whom you supported with your vote?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 06:15 pm
It doesn't matter who I voted for; it's irrelevant today. I rate Bush and the congress as incompetent and irresponsible; this is what matters.
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 06:33 pm
It matters very much because you supported the Democratic congress which now rates FAR below the President whom you DON'T support.

Why are you afraid to take responsibility for electing the Democrats to power?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 07:05 pm
real, I did not "elect" the congress or Bush. The American People did that. Is that a surprise for you?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 07:11 pm
Just because one selects a doctor, lawyer, congressman/woman, or any other kind of "specialist," doesn't mean they will be pleased with their choice. In most cases, we can go to another doctor, lawyer, or whatever, but with elections, we must wait until the next term to make our votes. Doesn't mean we "elect" them into office; it's an election where one's one vote doesn't elect anyone to the presidency or congress.

People oftentimes change their mind about who they voted for, but have no power to change them once in office.

I am registered as an Independent, and vote for who I believe will best represents my ideals. Doesn't mean he/she will be elected, or that once in office they'll do a satisfactory job.

That's life.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 07:13 pm
I was thinking the same thing, CI. Does the fact that you may have voted for someone preclude you from criticising the job they ultimately do?

Nah.
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 07:22 pm
Below are the approval ratings for both Bush and Congress since September 2005. Congress has often seen lower approval ratings than the president, almost always in fact. There was a jump during the elections that lasted until April 07, but since then it's been lower. This is nothing new.




Bush in Blue
Congress in Red

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4779/congressvsbushapprovalrie8.jpg

The data is from polling report, but the chart I had to create from the approval data in excel. The links to the data is below.

http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2007 07:47 pm
real, You see maporsche's graph? It shows that even though Bush is the president, and the congress is now democratic, they both stink according to most polls. You see, the same Americans who voted them into office now have decided they are incompetent and not doing their jobs for the American People - where it counts.

Who we voted for doesn't matter; that's history. What matters is how Americans think today about the president and congress. The majority of Americans think they both "stink."

Comprende?
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real life
 
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Reply Mon 31 Dec, 2007 01:34 am
Lash wrote:
I was thinking the same thing, CI. Does the fact that you may have voted for someone preclude you from criticising the job they ultimately do?

Nah.


I agree.

I voted for Bush, but I could name a dozen things I don't like about him.

However, he's still head and shoulders above the alternative that was offered.

But I'll criticize him plenty and I'll acknowledge my responsibility for having part in his election.

What I'm asking is why Imposter is unwilling to admit his responsibility for the Democratic congress.

Imposter's attempt to 'triangulate', to appear above it all, just doesn't wash.

I'm an Independent too, but I'm not afraid to admit who I've voted for.

I've voted for both Republicans and Democrats, and if you ask me who I voted for in which election I would gladly tell you even if they turned out to be a dud.

What are you afraid of , Imposter?

Confession is good for ya. Which Democrats did you help elect to Congress?
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