Any serious Christians left?

maporsche,

This is a strange hunt you're on (also strangely entertaining, I admit).

I actually think you may be getting somewhere, now. According to the belief, God does seem to consider them superior, and I can't imagine anyone arguing with God.

Intrepid:

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I am also beginning to think that you have a sense of inferiority and that is why you are so fixed on this item of superiority.

Yup. Big as day.

Maporsche,

Just as with the decision to accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour or not is personal, I would think that this "superior" thing you got going on is also just that, personal. If you feel that way, then you do. If I don't feel that way, then I don't.

echi wrote:

maporsche,

This is a strange hunt you're on (also strangely entertaining, I admit).

I actually think you may be getting somewhere, now. According to the belief, God does seem to consider them superior, and I can't imagine anyone arguing with God.

Good point echi.....god does consider Christians superior to non-Christians doesn't he? Christians will spend eternity in his presence, and non-Christians will burn in hell or spend eternity w/out God. If God says they are superior and deserving of a place by his side, who are they to argue? I like it.

I am very annoyed that you state "Based on your beliefs, assuming they are true " Are you infering a lie?

I am beginning to think that maybe I am superior to you.... not in the spiritual sense, but in the earthly sense.

If they don't accept Jesus, then they go to hell. It's stated plain as day in the bible. So whether or not you 'run around all day thinking' about it is besides the point. Your bible says that 4.5 billion people will burn in hell. If you beleive your bible to be true, then you know that 4.5 billion people will burn in hell.

maporsche wrote:

If they don't accept Jesus, then they go to hell. It's stated plain as day in the bible. So whether or not you 'run around all day thinking' about it is besides the point. Your bible says that 4.5 billion people will burn in hell. If you beleive your bible to be true, then you know that 4.5 billion people will burn in hell.

Nah, I don't think you will find such a quote in the Bible. It's one of those read between the lines things. Some folks who are pretty well read in the Bible will even tell you that the Bible does not even support the concept of hell. Right neo?

Definitely sucks about the online gambling thing - helluva tax revenue stream just tossed away. However, from a purely pragmatic POV, a Federal ban is about the only way it coulda gone, given the nature of the 'net, unambiguous Federal wagering laws and the tangle of state laws pertaining to wagering.

echi wrote:

maporsche,

This is a strange hunt you're on (also strangely entertaining, I admit).

I actually think you may be getting somewhere, now. According to the belief, God does seem to consider them superior, and I can't imagine anyone arguing with God.

Good point echi.....god does consider Christians superior to non-Christians doesn't he? Christians will spend eternity in his presence, and non-Christians will burn in hell or spend eternity w/out God. If God says they are superior and deserving of a place by his side, who are they to argue? I like it.

Believe it or not, this current driving force behind my bitterness is this new Anti-Internet Gambling law that the Christian right forced through congress. I can't play my poker anymore so I'm here instead. If only those pesky Christians would let me have my 10/20 hold'em.

Arella Mae wrote:

Maporsche,

Just as with the decision to accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour or not is personal, I would think that this "superior" thing you got going on is also just that, personal. If you feel that way, then you do. If I don't feel that way, then I don't.

Well, that decision is also mandatory to go to heaven right? And you KNOW this to be true. So the only way I get to spend eternity in blissful union with my creator is if I believe in the same Christ that you do, right?

timberlandko wrote:

Definitely sucks about the online gambling thing - helluva tax revenue stream just tossed away. However, from a purely pragmatic POV, a Federal ban is about the only way it coulda gone, given the nature of the 'net, unambiguous Federal wagering laws and the tangle of state laws pertaining to wagering.

Yeah, if you're going to ban it, a federal law is the only way to go. But c'mon, so much for the party of 'less government interference'.

And so much for the Christian POV of personal choice/freedom/free will/etc.

All of that was because you are ticked off that you can't gamble? Seriously? Dude, don't you get it? People voted. They exercised their rights. So you are ticked? Well, you don't have to like it but that seems to be the way it is. Perhaps if you had lobbied a bit more?

Arella Mae wrote:

All of that was because you are ticked off that you can't gamble? Seriously? Dude, don't you get it? People voted. They exercised their rights. So you are ticked? Well, you don't have to like it but that seems to be the way it is. Perhaps if you had lobbied a bit more?

Don't you get it? They exercised their rights to control what others can do in the privacy of their own homes.

Arella Mae wrote:

All of that was because you are ticked off that you can't gamble? Seriously? Dude, don't you get it? People voted. They exercised their rights. So you are ticked? Well, you don't have to like it but that seems to be the way it is. Perhaps if you had lobbied a bit more?

Don't you get it? They exercised their rights to control what others can do in the privacy of their own homes.

EVERYONE VOTES THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE! If you vote no when I vote yes are you trying to control what I do? No more so than I would be you. If you don't like the law, lobby to change it.

What else should people be allowed to do in their own home? Kiddy porn? Any number of other things that are abhorent and illegal based on public morals? Where does this "freedom" start and end?

ArellaMae wrote:

EVERYONE VOTES THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE! If you vote no when I vote yes are you trying to control what I do? No more so than I would be you. If you don't like the law, lobby to change it.

I think that you are not considering one major difference between your line of thought of mine. Take gambling, for instance. (For the record, I don't particularly care for gambling).

Let us say that a community wants to pass a law outlawing gambling. One person believes that it is evil, and votes for the law. Another wants to gamble, and votes against the law. I don't care for gambling, and would probably never set foot into a casino, but I would vote against the law. Why? Because I don't want to superimpose my views on other people.

This same line of thinking can apply to abortion, stem cell research, gay marriage and many other "hot button" issues that are applicable to the people of today.

Arella Mae- Can you understand my line of thinking? It all has to do with personal freedom, autonomy, equality and keeping the government out of an individual's personal business.

I bet a lot of those people that voted to ban gambling weren't Christians. So, they voted their conscience but God probably had nothing to do with it. What about them? Did they impose what they wanted on you and everyone else?