What if they lose?????

mysteryman wrote:

I have been reading what the Dems are saying,and listening to what they are saying,and I have a question.

The dems are saying that they expect to win the house and might win the Senate.

Who says this?

Both Clintons,Nancy Pelosi,Charlie Rangel,and many other dems are saying this.

mysteryman wrote:

They are already talking about what they are going to do,things like raise taxes,repeal the Bush tax cuts,raise the minimum wage,and several other things.

Who says this?

Nancy Pelosi,the woman who would be speaker if the dems win.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/06/AR2006100600056.html

mysteryman wrote:

Now,what I am not hearing or seeing is any speculation about what it would mean for the dems if they DONT win the house and senate.

There's no need to speculate. If the GOP maintains control of congress, it will be two more years of more of the same.

mysteryman wrote:

Why is that?

Surely the dems dont really think that they are so universally loved and respected that they wont have anyone vote against them?
So,if the dems lose the election,or dont win either house,what does that say about them as a party?

Does that mean that their ideas are not welcome?
Does that mean that they are not a major player in politics anymore?

I am curious,what does it say about the dems if they dont win?

I suggest you ask again after the election.

Mystery, Brandon and Asherman...

Are you interested in a serious answer from a progressive Democrat, or is this just flame bait?

I can give an interesting and insightful answer from where I sit if any of you are truly interested.

I am pretty sure the Dems will win one and probably both. I am happy to go on record saying this.

ebrown_p wrote:

Mystery, Brandon and Asherman...

Are you interested in a serious answer from a progressive Democrat, or is this just flame bait?

I can give an interesting and insightful answer from where I sit if any of you are truly interested.

Yes,I am serious.
I am truly curious about how the dems will handle it if they dont win control of either the house or Senate.
They seem so fixated on the idea that they WILL win that I really think the dems will go totally off the wall if they lose.

Personally,I think if they lose it might spell the death of the democrat party,as a single party.
I see it breaking up into at least 2 but possibly 3 more parties,all under the "umbrella" of the dem party.

mysteryman wrote:

The dems are saying that they expect to win the house and might win the Senate.

Who says this?

Both Clintons,Nancy Pelosi,Charlie Rangel,and many other dems are saying this.

mysteryman wrote:

They are already talking about what they are going to do,things like raise taxes,repeal the Bush tax cuts,raise the minimum wage,and several other things.

Who says this?

Nancy Pelosi,the woman who would be speaker if the dems win.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/06/AR2006100600056.html

<<laugh>> In my house we have another saying-- "Don't bet money that you don't have", and besides I have no need to prove anything here.

Anyay, If I had an extra $100 to bet, I would put it into the IEM, where a $100 bet for the democrats to win would win me about $120.

If the GOP loses badly:

* The Party in power typically loses seats during off year elections.
* The losses may represent local political struggles, but may not signal any real change in the fundamental beliefs of the electorate.
* The Foley scandal may smear Republican candidates indiscriminately.
* The GOP failed to do its best to get out the vote.
* The left and anti-Bush propaganda might find enough willing ears to cost Republican candidates needed votes.
* The GOP has gotten out of step with the vast majority of Americans.

All of those are possible reasons that we might lose the mid-term elections. You should note that many of these "reasons" are a matter of perception.

Personally, I expect the Democrats to make gains in both Houses, but still remain a minority Party in the Congress. I don't think this election is a referendum on President Bush, or his policies.

Bush's post-election approval hovers near lowest of presidency
By USA TODAY staff

WASHINGTON ?- President Bush's job approval ratings have slumped in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup poll, with the president's rating hovering near the lowest of his tenure.

In the poll, taken Thursday through Sunday, 33% of Americans approve of Bush's job performance and 62% disapprove. That compares to 38% approval and 56% disapproval in a USA TODAY/Gallup poll taken Nov. 2-5, just before the Nov. 7 midterm elections.

ON DEADLINE: 'Approval' lowest since May

Bush, an asset for congressional candidates four years ago, was a liability for many this time. His approval rating was 42% in midterm exit polls. That's 10 percentage points lower than on Election Day in 2004 and 24 points lower than in 2002.

Sixteen percent of those who said they voted for Bush in 2004 supported Democrats in the midterms, according to exit polling.

Bush's lowest job approval rating came in a poll taken May 5-7, where 31% of Americans approved of his job performance. The same poll pegged Americans' disapproval of his job performance at 65%, the highest of his tenure.

The president's approval ratings have hovered near or below 40% for most of this year in the poll. The president's highest approval ratings came in late September 2001, shortly after the 9/11 terror attacks. Ninety percent of Americans approved of Bush's job performance at that time.

The poll was based on telephone interviews with 1,004 adults. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.