kelticwizard wrote:
JP, have you ever actually
talked a black person about politics? Do you know any? I mean outside of whoever might show up at your local Republican club meeting.
What a dumbass statement that only a dumb ass would make.
kelticwizard wrote:Snood made fun of these black "achievers" because their "achievements" consist exclusively of telling white people what they want to hear about blacks. These people have no standing-none-in the black community at all. They just put on their little show for their white audiences and collect the money. Their conservative audiences lap it up, then go listen to their favorite talk show host rail against the latest "outrage" of the Black Congressional Caucus, Jesse Jackson, and just about any group or individual with actual support among the black population.
Actually their achievements consist of a lot more than that.
Here is a short bio on Clarence Thomas. He was born in the south and lived with his mother after his father abandoned them. His grandfather helped instill a work ethic in him and often told him things such as "never let the sun catch you in bed in the morning."
Here is a brief bio of Sowell, one of Thomas's early role models. He also grew upp in the south where he says "his encounters with white people were so limited that he didn't believe that "yellow" was a possible color for human hair." Soon after moving to Harlem, he dropped out of school. He, like Walter Williams, soon realized that nobody was going to give them a free pass at success. They both grew out of poor urban families (I believe Williams was from Philly), worked their way through school to become highly successful, highly educated people. "Williams is a champion of black education, frequently indicting the educational systems of inner city schools for perpetuating, in his words, a fraud against African-American students and families by lowered standards."
bio Both have written numerous books on what they feel are societal ills or hurdles facing todays black community.
Condi had a similar upbringing. Born in the south as well to a Minister father and teacher mother, she "experienced firsthand the injustices of Birmingham's discriminatory laws and attitudes. She was instructed to walk proudly in public and to use the facilities at home rather than subject herself to the indignity of "colored" facilities in town. As Rice recalls of her parents and their peers, 'they refused to allow the limits and injustices of their time to limit our horizons.' However, Rice recalls various times in which she suffered discrimination and persecution on account of her skin color, which include being relegated to a storage room at a department store instead of a regular dressing room, being barred from going to the circus or the local amusement park, being denied hotel rooms, and even being given bad food at restaurants." (
bio
Of course, snood can still call them hankyheads, and GW can still get her information from two ladies down at the co-op talking over a bag of white rice, and you can still assert that "their 'achievements' consist
exclusively of telling white people what they want to hear about blacks," but I'd just like you all to answer me two questions:
1.) What, in your opinion, constitutes a "successful
black person?
2.) Which of the attributes, these so called "hankyheads" have, in your opinion, "have no standing-none-in the black community at all?"
