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Tax Reform Poll...current results!

 
 
Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2006 09:42 pm
Just thought you guys might be interested in an ongoing poll concerning tax reform


Flat, H.R. 25., current, or Constitution`s original tax plan? [/u]

At present the results are:

Current system______________________0

Forbes flat tax______________________12

H.R. 25 [asserted ``FairTax``]_________13

Constitution`s original tax plan________11

Other [explain]_______________________12

One thing seems certain, people want a change!

Regards,

JWK
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john w k
 
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Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:13 pm
Questions for H.R. 25 [fair tax] supporters
Some questions for H.R. 25 [alleged fair tax] supporters.

Now why would you support H.R. 25 which would create a new tax in America, a 23 percent tax calculated from the value of property within each of the various states, real and personal, and maintain Congress` power to also calculate taxes from profits, gains, salaries and other ``income``?

In addition, H.R. 25 would create a massive and very dangerous voting constituency under its family consumption entitlement, an entitlement which would make Hilary Health Care look like chicken feed and is estimated to cost approximately $ 600 BILLION a year.

Why do you want to create another voting block, one which would not only be dependent upon a monthly government check___ but would dwarf our nation`s social security recipients already receiving a monthly government check? Bad idea! Very, very bad idea!

We don`t need another voting constituency dependent upon a monthly government check![/i]

Why do you not support a return our Constitution`s original tax plan which can be reactivated by demanding our public servants add the following words to our Constitution?

``The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money``[/i]

Supporting a return to the founder`s original tax plan would in fact accomplish the fairy tale version of H.R. 25, and without its undesirable consequences or effects!

Why do you not support the founder`s original tax plan?

You do know that socialists worked very hard to establish an income tax in America and remove the constitutional requirement of apportioning such a tax [a tax calculated from wealth] among the states. Seems to me that same crowd is back and this time they want to establish another tax calculated from wealth [the value of property, real and personal] without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census of enumeration.[/i]

You do know H.R. 25 proposes to subjugate the rule of apportionment for a general tax among the states to fill the national treasury. Our founding fathers agreed that if Congress found it necessary to call upon the states to fill the national treasury in a general tax among the states, those states paying the largest share of the burden would likewise exercise a vote in Congress proportionate to their financial contribution.

I know socialists love the one man one vote idea when it comes to deciding how to spend money from the federal treasury, but when it comes to filling the national treasury, they run and hide from the constitutional rule requiring one vote one dollar.


Those who support H.R. 25 seem to also love enforcing the following formula to exercise their vote in Congress when spending federal revenue:


State`s Population
_________________X size of Cong. (435)=State`s votes in Cong.
population of U.S.


But when it comes time to paying the tab, those who support H.R. 25 want to subjugate our Constitution`s fair share formula for filling the national treasury, just like socialists run and hide from the formula:



State`s population

------------------------------------- X SUM OF TAX = STATE`S SHARE

Total U.S. Population


HERE IS A LIST which includes Representatives and Senators who support subjugating our Constitution`s fair share formula for a general tax among the states to fill the national treasury..


Regards,

JWK

"If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides, that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?"[/i] Justice Story
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 1 Oct, 2006 09:47 pm
I don't want a change, because they always seem to skew changes against the little guy. I prefer to go on the way we have for all these years than give them the chance.
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john w k
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 05:18 pm
Neal Boortz fibs about H.R. 25 to Congressional Committee!
Neal Boortz fibs about H.R. 25 to Congressional Committee!



Well, not only does Neal Boortz make things up when talking to his listening audience about H.R 25, but now he has made something up while testifying before a Congressional Committee!

Neal Boortz testified:[/u]

Quote:

Secondly, the FairTax relieves all households of the responsibility for paying sales taxes on the basic necessities of life through a rebate system. Nobody pays federal taxes on the basic necessities of life. This means that The FairTax is truly the only tax reform plan that completely eliminates the responsibility for the payment of any federal taxes whatsoever on the poor. (my emphasis.)


This turns out to be an outright lie! The truth is, all consumers pay the 23 percent tax on the basic necessities of life under H.R.25. The authors of H.R.25 concocted what they call a ``family consumption allowance``__ a monthly check which is doled out by folks in government to qualified households who must register with government to receive the allowance. The family consumption entitlement is intended to be earmarked by each consumer to offset taxes paid on the basic necessities of life.

In essence, the so called fair tax rations tax-free basic necessities of life, and rations them by the size of the family consumption allowance allotted to each household. Those who are sickly and have enormous doctor and medical bills, once exceeding the rationing allowance, will in fact pay federal taxes on the necessities of life and not with money from the family consumption entitlement check.

Hey Boortz, why did you give your fairy tale version of H.R. 25 to Congress? It's not nice to make things up Neal, especially to a Congressional Committee!

Want real tax reform? Then work to demand our political employees, our public servants, add the following words to our Constitution:

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money[/i]

Regards,

JWK
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