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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 12:55 pm
We've had threads about judgment/judgement before. I remember both as being correct depending on what the source of the ruling was.

I was taught judgment and spelled it that way for, oh, say, five decades. Now I type it the way I wish, the way that makes sense to me: judgement.

Many people on a2k who spell well in english use the 'e', and many other good spellers don't.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 12:57 pm
You're a man of letters, Walter.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 04:12 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, there are several words, I'll never use the American way of spelling ...


Actually, the way it usually works is that either the American or British form is correct, but once you choose one you have to follow all the way through with it.

So if you want to choose the Brit spelling, fine. Just beware that you are consigning yourself to a lifetime of adding extra "u"s to words like color, honor, flavor, behavior and a whole bunch of others. Not to mention that you cannnot write about making out a check-you have to take extra time to make out a cheque.

But hey, it's your danger of developing carpal tunnel syndrome from the extra typing, not mine. Very Happy
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najmelliw
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 04:45 pm
I just comfort myself by reminding me that those poor schmucks ni ancient egypt had to use those damn hieroglyphs.... Not to mention cuneiform as used by the Assyrians. I'll take that extra 'u' any time of the week.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:09 pm
This item is related to this thread. Zapatero and Merkel are the only leaders whose appeal reaches across countries. Note the numbers for "None of them" though!

Quote:
Zapatero Regarded as Best World Leader

October 3, 2006
Angus-Reid Global Monitor

[In] a poll by Harris Interactive [of adults in five European countries] released by the Financial Times. 14 per cent of respondents think [Spanish president José Luis Rodríguez] Zapatero is doing the best job among eight world leaders.

German chancellor Angela Merkel is second with 13 per cent, followed by British prime minister Tony Blair with seven per cent, French president Jacques Chirac with five per cent, United States president George W. Bush with four per cent, Italian prime minister Romano Prodi also with four per cent, Russian president Vladimir Putin with two per cent, and European Commission president Jose Durao Barroso with one per cent.

Zapatero was the top choice for respondents in Spain and Italy, while Blair led the ranking in Britain, and Merkel came in first in Germany and France. Almost half of all respondents in the five nations said none of the eight leaders are doing a good job.

While 10 per cent of Italians chose Bush as the best world leader, the American president did not reach five per cent in any of the remaining four countries.

Polling Data

In your opinion, which of the following leaders is doing the best job?

Code: All BRI FRA ITA ESP

José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero 14% 2% 14% 19% 31%

Angela Merkel 13% 7% 15% 13% 13%

Tony Blair 7% 15% 6% 9% 3%

Jacques Chirac 5% 4% 12% 2% 2%

George W. Bush 4% 4% 2% 10% 2%

Romano Prodi 4% 1% 2% 13% 2%

Vladimir Putin 2% 3% 1% 2% --

Jose Durao Barroso 1% 1% 2% 1% 1%

None of them 49% 62% 46% 31% 47%


Source: Harris Interactive / Financial Times
Methodology: Online interviews with 1,019 adults in Britain, 1,033 adults in France, 1,048 adults in Germany, 1,054 adults in Italy and 1,020 adults in Spain, conducted from Sept. 7 to Sept. 18, 2006. Margin of error is 3 per cent
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:26 pm
A critical view of Zapatero from the outside (and I would be a PSOE member if I was a Spaniard): with him, the gist of the socialdemocrat program has changed into some sort of "goodwill" politics. "Peace", "good vibes" seems all he has to offer. He's not half as bright, as gutsy, as a relevant reformer as Felipe González was.
His main assett is that he's the alternative to the populares, who are swiftly moving from center-right to extreme right (I put Chavez in the absolute bottom of my list, but I will not buy Aznar's claim that he's part of the "islamo-fascist" movement).
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:37 pm
fbaezer wrote:
A critical view of Zapatero from the outside (and I would be a PSOE member if I was a Spaniard): with him, the gist of the socialdemocrat program has changed into some sort of "goodwill" politics. "Peace", "good vibes" seems all he has to offer. He's not half as bright, as gutsy, as a relevant reformer as Felipe González was.

Well, I dunno Fbaezer - I agree he's more of a postmaterialist than Gonzalez, but he's made some gutsy moves that Gonzalez mostly never dared to take on (or wasn't interested in).

- Immediate withdrawal from Iraq upon election;

- Amnesty for illegal immigrants;

- Legalisation of gay marriage (still one of the very few countries that fully recognizes it);

- Expansion of womens rights and a government campaign against domestic violence, with both expanded rights and shelters for battered women and unprecedented public debate;

- And finally, almost thirty years after the end of Franco's rule, an open debate about the victims of the Civil War, with the dismantling of monuments to Franco, official rehabilitation / support for Civil War victims, collecting and opening of archives, etc.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:56 pm
As a guy who was young in the 70s, the incorporation of our 70s culture in the legislature (what you call postmaterialism) is fine with me.
The problem is that I fail to see anything else. I have mixed feelings both about the re-opening of Civil War wounds (again, more a thing of the 70s generation, and of revenge against the Catholic right than something well thought with statesmanhood) and the dialogue with ETA (as much as I dislike the populares' stand, I don't think good will is the best way to deal with these terrorists).
Iraq is another thing, of course. And it was logical. I applaud him on that.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 12:13 am
Why isn't the Hungarian Prime Minister--Ferenc Gyurcsany--on the list? He is one of the most honest and forthright politicians in Europe who is trying to lead his country and others around him.
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 01:16 am
Hungaria?? What a bunch of garbage!!! God, Marion... Don't you know that Hungaria's influence is so stupid compared to the United States'?!
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MarionT
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 02:06 am
Hungaria? You mean Hungary, don't you?
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 04:06 am
MarionT wrote:
Why isn't the Hungarian Prime Minister--Ferenc Gyurcsany--on the list? He is one of the most honest and forthright politicians in Europe

Ha ha ha ha!!!

Half a million people expected at the demonstration against him today...
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 09:25 am
That's an amazing number considering the country only has 10 million to begin with.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 05:47 pm
Yeah, well, it was a bit of an anti-climax. Sizzled out. A dud. Only 80,000 people showed up.

Mind you, the estimate hadnt come out of nothing altogether: Fidesz rallies in previous times of contention have indeed been enormous.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2006 07:47 pm
In America, we make a big deal out of rallies that exceed 100,000.

We have 30 times Hungary's population, so proportionately that was a rally of 2.4 million. Enormous! Exclamation
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MarionT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 12:23 am
Nimh- How can it be that you have all of the answers and solutions to the problems of the United States( which you really don't know very much about) but can't do a damned thing to fix the crap going on in that hell hole called Hungary? That doesn't help your credibility very much.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 12:25 am
Keltic Wizard, who thinks he knows all about American Politics and Economics, has been very quiet lately because he knows that his predictions about the Senatorial Race in Connecticut are just full of it.

What happened, Keltic Wizard, did someone knock off your wizard hat?
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 06:15 am
MarionT wrote:
Nimh- How can it be that you .. can't do a damned thing to fix the crap going on in that hell hole called Hungary?

What can I say, they just wont listen to me!

I'm sure you know exactly how it feels.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Oct, 2006 03:00 am
They won't listen to you? Then, Nimh, you should try the USA. You see, when you get involved with politics in this country and help your choice of candidates, you go out into the streets knocking on doors and talk to the voters. You don't read "The Nation" or the "Guardian"--biased left wing Socialist sources, you go out to meet the actual voters. And they do listen to their neighbors who know what the real problems are in the USA.

None of my neighbors give a damn about the US listening to any calls between Al Qaeda and some Arab sources in the USA.

None of my neighbors are worried that they will lose their rights when the "terrorists" are tried under the plan sketched out by the Supreme Court and ratified by the Congress.

None of my neighbors are worried about the effects of the "Patriot Act" since they know that it will protect us.

But they do watch the stock market. You see, Nimh, most of them have 401K's which enable them to share in the fantastic economy we have now in the USA.

They do back our soldiers in Iraq. Unlike some of the superannuated hippies from the late 60's and 70's, many of their fathers served--indeed, volunteered to save the worthless as*es of the Europeans in World War II.

So there are a lot of people who listen. Unfortunately,not enough. The left wing cockroaches are more prolific.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 19 Oct, 2006 04:38 am
MarionT wrote:
They won't listen to you? Then, Nimh, you should try the USA. You see, when you get involved with politics in this country and help your choice of candidates, you go out into the streets knocking on doors and talk to the voters.

I'd have a slight problem doing that in Hungary, since I'm not actually Hungarian and all. I'm still only learning the language.

MarionT wrote:
You don't read "The Nation" or the "Guardian"--biased left wing Socialist sources, you go out to meet the actual voters.

Except for people like you, who will spend their time ranting on web forums instead.

MarionT wrote:
They do back our soldiers in Iraq. Unlike some of the superannuated hippies from the late 60's and 70's, many of their fathers served--indeed, volunteered to save the worthless as*es of the Europeans in World War II.

And unlike most all of the prominent government politicians and neocon opinion makers, but like Max Cleland, Murtha, Kerry, they might actually have served in Vietnam, or have children now serving in Iraq. Yes, I know.

MarionT wrote:
So there are a lot of people who listen. Unfortunately,not enough. The left wing cockroaches are more prolific.

Pretending to be like one for these last coupla months has really gotten to you, hasnt it?
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