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9/11 was an inside job

 
 
woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 06:25 am
Fairy tales in your little minds.
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dupre
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:35 am
a reference to that German pole.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:85JeTGEXslMJ:www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/93-2965.aspx+%22germans%22+%22pole%22+%229/11%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
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candidone1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:40 am


A German of Polish descent?
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dupre
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:42 am
I'm just wondering about Bush reading to the children.

He was supposedly "hosting a conversation" at the Institute of Health on children's education.

I mean, when was it determined that Bush would be "hosting a conversation" at that event?

The Great American Read-Aloud Day occurs in April.

Do presidents routinely read aloud to children? Has any other president read aloud to children other than on the Great American Read Aloud Day?

I ask because we are always talking about terrorists hiding behind children so they don't get bombed.

I admit I haven't done loads of research on the conspiracy theories, just hear / read some here and there and haven't come to any ideas on it either way ...

But this thing about reading to the children has just stuck in my craw SINCE 9/11/01. FIVE YEARS now.

Was Bush hiding behind children as a last-minute planned event, because he knew (or had reason to believe) something was going to happen.

Were his plans to be at that school common, public knowledge?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:49 am
Bush could have been anywhere, at any event, with any number of men women and children surrounding him--or he could have stashed himself in any number of secure places.
Of all things fishy about 9/11, I wouldn't think this is one of them.
The fact that he continued reading after the confirmation that America was under attack is just an odd reaction that would garner more of my attention than anything else.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 07:56 am
dupre wrote:
I'm just wondering about Bush reading to the children.

He was supposedly "hosting a conversation" at the Institute of Health on children's education.

I mean, when was it determined that Bush would be "hosting a conversation" at that event?

The Great American Read-Aloud Day occurs in April.

Do presidents routinely read aloud to children? Has any other president read aloud to children other than on the Great American Read Aloud Day?

I ask because we are always talking about terrorists hiding behind children so they don't get bombed.

I admit I haven't done loads of research on the conspiracy theories, just hear / read some here and there and haven't come to any ideas on it either way ...

But this thing about reading to the children has just stuck in my craw SINCE 9/11/01. FIVE YEARS now.

Was Bush hiding behind children as a last-minute planned event, because he knew (or had reason to believe) something was going to happen.

Were his plans to be at that school common, public knowledge?


Read : The Dog Did Not Bark Because The Criminal Was Its Master
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dupre
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 08:03 am
Thanks. That was an interesting take on it. I appreciate it!
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MarionT
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 02:37 pm
freedom 4 free tells the truth. I have read that before and nobody has proven that the details are not correct. The conservative hate mongers must be removed from office. We all have to vote against them. It is our duty as Americans!
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 15 Sep, 2006 03:06 pm
MarionT wrote:
freedom 4 free tells the truth. I have read that before and nobody has proven that the details are not correct. The conservative hate mongers must be removed from office. We all have to vote against them. It is our duty as Americans!


Marion, read this interesting piece and click on the link to watch the video.

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Long-sought 9/11 videotape didn't capture attack

RAW STORY
Published: Friday September 15, 2006


A convenience store videotape long-sought by September 11 conspiracy theorists does not actually show the attack on the Pentagon, RAW STORY has learned.

Many believed the video would show American Airlines Flight 77 -- or something else -- striking the Pentagon. The videotape, which depicts views from the gas station's six security cameras, shows that the CITGO cameras did not seem to capture the actual attack.

Conservative organization Judicial Watch obtained the footage through a Freedom of Information Act request filed December 15, 2004. The request sought all records pertaining to September 11, 2001 camera recordings of the Pentagon attack from the Nexcomm/CITGO gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation.

In May 2006, The Department of Defense released a number of videos depicting the attack in response to a Judicial Watch lawsuit. The group filed another lawsuit against the FBI on June 22, 2006.

The FBI has also agreed to release to Judicial Watch a videotape obtained from the Doubletree Hotel near the Pentagon by November 9, 2006.

"With the release of this videotape, we are one step closer to completing the public record on the September 11 terrorist attacks," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in a statement. "The CITGO tape evidently does not show the Pentagon attack, which the American people can now see for themselves. This videotape was the subject of intense public debate. Now that it has been released to the public, there is no reason for further speculation about what it does or does not show."

The video may be viewed below. Images from inside the store have been partially obscured by the FBI to protect the privacy of store customers and employees.

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... which raises the question of why the FBI withheld the tape all this time claiming it was critical to their investigation.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 01:37 pm
9/11 an Inside Job

Half of New Yorkers believe US leaders had foreknowledge of impending 9-11 attacks and consciously failed to act; 66% call for new probe of unanswered questions by congress or New York's Attorney General, see Zogby, and thousands of Americans have signed a petition for a new probe.

A poll shows 89% of CNN Internet users feel this way and over 63% of Canadians feel similarly. On the 3 year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks 80% Al-Arabia satellite TV viewers thought others, besides Bin Ladin, were behind 9/11.

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MarionT
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 01:46 pm
Not only that, Freedom, but the head of a large and liberated Nation. Venezuela, declared that the Bushies and the Mossad had conspired to create 9/11. He certainly is not a minor figure. He is the head of a state!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 02:38 pm
MarionT wrote:
He is the head of a state!

There's a lot of those in the world... I wouldnt believe what half of em said.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 02:44 pm
Well, Who do you believe? Bushie? Blair? The bootlicker heads of state in Australia or Canada? Go to Europe and talk to the people there. Most of them say that the USA and Israel caused 9/11.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 03:23 pm
MarionT wrote:
Go to Europe and talk to the people there. Most of them say that the USA and Israel caused 9/11.

Ha. Have you looked at my "location", Marion? I actually LIVE in Europe.. so dont go telling me what "most of" us here think. Most of us Europeans do not think "USA and Israel caused 9/11".

MarionT wrote:
Well, Who do you believe? Bushie? Blair? The bootlicker heads of state in Australia or Canada?

You've actually inspired me (with your previous post already) to start a new thread - asking, who would you trust soonest?

I'll make my own list later, some time I need to revive that thread. But by ways of preview: politicians I'd trust would be people like Joschka Fischer, Lionel Jospin, Vaclav Havel and Romano Prodi. None of them are rightwingers - and none of them believes "USA and Israel caused 9/11".
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MarionT
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 03:36 pm
A friend told me that the most popular book in France now is something called-"A Horrifying Fraud" by someone named Messian. It is a best sellet and it says that the US caused 9/11 with a missle. Do you know about this? I will bet you do not!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 03:45 pm
Yes, there was a German book that caused quite a stir and shifted a lot of copies for a while too. But no, that doesnt mean "most of" the Europeans subscribe to these theories.

Case in question: in the Netherlands, pollster Maurice de Hond asked respondents last week to give their "judgement about the veracity of the attack on the WTC in New York on 11 September 2001". The results:

62% Has definitely happened
24% Has probably really happened
6% Was probably staged
3% Was definitely staged.

Though the percentage of people who thought the 9/11 attacks were staged increased on the far right and the far left, it was a small minority even there (13% of the List Fortuyn and Group Wilders voters on the far right, and 16% of Green Left and 19% of Socialist voters on the far left).

There was more ambiguity on the question whether America had itself to blame for the attack:

16% Yes, completely
28% Yes, a little bit
52% No
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MarionT
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 11:16 pm
How can the people vote intelligently when they can't find out the truth? Do all of them visit the blogs proving that 9/11 was set up by Bushie and the Jews? Do all of them think, before the vote, of why the investigation of 9/11 did not even begin until a whole year had passed? That stinks of conspiracy and cover up!
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 09:54 am
MarionT wrote:
A friend told me that the most popular book in France now is something called-"A Horrifying Fraud" by someone named Messian. It is a best sellet and it says that the US caused 9/11 with a missle. Do you know about this? I will bet you do not!

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Conspiracy Theory

France's No. 1 best seller claims the U.S. orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks. Why do people read this stuff?

BY BRUCE CRUMLEY/PARIS

Move over Fox Mulder, here comes Thierry Meyssan. Like the unrelenting FBI hero of the popular X Files TV series, Meyssan is a player in the conspiracy business. But in contrast to the fictional Mulder's sympathetic crusades ?- one geek's quest to combat a farcical cabal of sociopathic humans and the world-conquering extraterrestrials they serve ?- Meyssan's campaign has attracted audiences with a singularly despicable suggestion: that the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 were carried out by U.S. government officials as part of a murderous economic and military plot.

Meyssan makes that astonishing proposition in the book l'Effroyable Imposture (The Horrifying Fraud), a controversial tome that topped France's best-seller list in six of the seven weeks since its release. Meyssan defiantly dismisses the universally accepted version of the 9/11 tragedy as "a loony fable" patched together by the White House and the Defense Department "as one lie called forth another." He maintains that neither American Airlines Flight 77 nor any other aircraft crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 ?- the explosion supposedly detonated on the ground. He similarly rejects notions that the planes that struck the World Trade Center towers were flown by al-Qaeda terrorists and argues they were in fact directed from the ground by remote control.

So what does Meyssan think really happened? Although he stops just short of the categorical, the militant libertarian champions the theory (previously limited to Internet forums and sites, including his own) that the attacks ?- and the 3,000 victims they claimed ?- were the work of officials in the U.S. government and military, looking for an excuse to launch war on Afghanistan and Iraq. "If the energy lobby was the main beneficiary of the war in Afghanistan, the biggest victor of Sept. 11 was the military-industrial lobby," Meyssan writes. "Its wildest dreams have now been fulfilled."

To support his theory, Meyssan plays up factual oddities or gray areas surrounding the attacks ?- a skeptical focus facilitated by secrecy rules imposed in the ongoing investigations. He notes that no film footage of the Pentagon explosion exists and regards eyewitness testimony of the crash as suspicious, contradictory or flatly incredible. He similarly argues that the photos offer no evidence of the debris typical of an airplane crash (discounting expert explanations that the extreme violence of the impact and heat of the explosion caused virtual atomization of the jet), and says the area of destruction to the Pentagon is impossibly small given the size and span of the craft.

Meyssan's theories on the New York City attacks are even more counterintuitive. He cites unnamed "professional pilots" who claim the World Trade Center strikes could not have been carried out by neophyte fliers. Meyssan then recounts testimony from similarly unidentified New York amateur radio operators, who say they picked up the signals of navigational beacons within the towers guiding the planes to their targets. Using tones of stony authority fused with acidic mockery, Meyssan casts the events of Sept. 11 and those that followed as the work of a virtual shadow junta within the U.S. government that has masterfully manipulated American media and public opinion.

The terminally serious Meyssan, 44, launched the book on one of France's flashiest, trashiest talk shows, and he followed up with a string of controversy-churning TV appearances that further piqued public curiosity. The print press denounced the volume in turn ?- Libération retitled it The Horrible Swindle ?- but that too helped fuel purchases. The book now has the distinction of breaking the French publishing record for first-month sales previously held by Madonna's Sex.

Given the dogged manner in which his quirky association Réseau Voltaire defends free thought and speech from a host of nefarious threats, Meyssan's unconventional speculation on 9/11 isn't entirely novel. More surprising was the rush of French readers, who had so earnestly commiserated with a wounded America, to get a copy of the tract. French observers say the book's fascination has more to do with the sheer entertainment value of spooky, over-the-top conspiracy scenarios than it does with any blossoming of anti-American paranoia in France. The publisher, Carnot, plans to release an English-language translation this month and an additional 18 foreign versions by September. What's next ?- a movie version? A TV series? If only Meyssan had worked in a few aliens, he might have had a real shot at the X Files market.

Time Europe
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 10:15 am
MarionT wrote:
Not only that, Freedom, but the head of a large and liberated Nation. Venezuela, declared that the Bushies and the Mossad had conspired to create 9/11. He certainly is not a minor figure. He is the head of a state!


You don't see the fallaciousness of your logic.
X is a head of state therefore what X says must be accepted as a valid truth.

Now, substitute "X" with "Bush".
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 19 Sep, 2006 10:30 am
Yep, that George Bush is quite the rascal, isn't he?

He wins the election in 2000 and makes sure there is a close vote in Florida to create a distraction while he rounds up 19 knuckleheads to hi-jack airplanes to fly into the WTC and Pentagon, and what the heck, why not the White House or Capital Building. He hires some folks to plant bombs in the WTC on the 80th Floor and 70 th floor because the rookie pilots are going to hit the WTC right about there. Then he remembers, Laura might be home so he tells the one pilot to crasch the plane in PA using code during a story book reding to children.

Once this is done, now he can go to war with Afganistan and Iraq.

Yep, this guy Bush is a rascal.
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