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.......yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes.

Well- curbing enthusiasm is hardly smorgies bag and it is her thread.

"The curried chicken is off tonight I'm afraid sir."

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Morning everyone!

It's very mild outside...

Hope you all have a good day.

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Mornin', gorgeous.

'Tis mild here as well, although I don't really like these dark mornings. Never mind.....only about nine weeks to the shortest day.

Spring is just around the corner, really. (ever the optomist)

Have a great day, Sarah.

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Must plant my one and only bulb!

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I've got two to plant, if you're interested.

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Lord Ellpus wrote:

I've got two to plant, if you're interested.

Oo- er, missus! Such sauce, early on a Monday morning too. You seem to be recovering well from yor recent indisposition, milord.

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McTag wrote:

This seems to have got a bit silly.

I like that.

I was watching Helen Mirren on the box but I got fed up with it....anyway it's recording.
I'll watch Curb Your Enthusiasm in a bit.

Did any one speak?

No, my mistake, it must have been a rodent behind the wainscot, or a chill gust of wind blowing a discarded tin can down the lonely street, a harbinger of winter.

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On Wednesday Channel 4 are screening the first episode of a series about life in the grim and gritty North West. Forgotten the name. Bling oop North or somethging.

should be quite good

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The start buttons are all pressed, deisels are humming, wheels are turning, hands are gripping, trucks are loading, stuff is coming your way.

You're in good hands. No sweat. Yes!

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Meanwhile back in the real world

There's some interesting stories in todays Grauniad

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Universities urged to spy on Muslims...'Asian looking' students targeted

university lecturers are requested to report any politico-islamist agitation to the secret police....er sorry we dont have secret police, they are called special branch. They are used to secretly monitor and spy on Muslim extremists

I would never have thought to agree with such policies a few years ago...but now I do.

page 4

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Muslim leaders risking voluntary apartheid as veil row escalates

This is a follow on from Jack Straw's request that Muslim women remove their veils in his surgery, and a muslim teaching assistant who refuses to take her veil off in class.

This later incident is quite interesting because it was at a Church of England[/i] school. The woman did not wear her veil for interview despite men on the selection board. She said she never refused to take it off in front of children, but gave disingenuous answers because she would wear it if a man was in the class room. By her actions she is effectively taking away the right of men to work in schools. Thats sexual discrimination. I dont trust this woman. I think she got this job by deception and is determined to cause trouble when the school ask her to behave reasonably. But I take it as a co incidence that Mohammed Sidique Khan (London bomber) was also a teaching assistant at a school not too far away.

meanwhile on the other side of the spectrum

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Hain calls British airways ban on Christian employee's cross 'loopy

Not at all we dont want religious symbols in our schools or at the check in desk of an airline. Quite right BA.

and in the sports section

Sumo wrestling news

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The Irishman Colin Carrolls quest for a gold medal at the world sumo championships lasted only two seconds in Sakai Japan yesterday. The Cork wrestler was aiming to add sumo success to the world title he won in elephant polo last year...but Carroll collapsed in a heap after being swatted like a fly and was then thrown out of the ring by Igor Kurinnoy in his repechage bout. Carroll who broke his back in a wind surfing accident 10 years ago said "I want to show what human potential can achieve when applied to something we know nothing about. I don't know the rules of sumo

Three cheers for Cork's finest eh?

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Actually, lecturers and university staff across Britain are to be asked to spy on "Asianlooking" and Muslim students .

While Asians are easily to recognise, I suggest a yellow star for the Muslims.

We had great and successful experiences with such for a couple of years ...

Last week I've read about the labour dispute at BA, where Christians now complain that they aren't allowed to show a cross outside the uniform anymore.

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Steve wrote-

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Meanwhile back in the real world

Oh yeah. The demand side eh? It's out of control and the Guardian is its mouthpiece. Just look at its job advertising. Assertion City.

You call that shite about Muslims and a useless Sumo wrestler and everything else in the Guardian the real world do you?

I bet you don't even know why they wear the veil and why it is important to them. And there's a good reason why it is better for you that you remain in ignorance too so I'm not going to enlighten you.

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If it's only wearing a cross OUTSIDE the uniform, I agree with the BA decision. It should not be for uniformed persons to wear specific religious symbols which distract from their role.

If they are allowed to wear crosses INSIDE their clothes (i.e. a pendant under the shirt) then their religious needs are dealt with, without making it seem as if BA and the relgious imagery are connected.

KP

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Steve wrote-

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I would never have thought to agree with such policies a few years ago...but now I do.

Was the old position the "real world" then and now it isn't?

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

Actually, lecturers and university staff across Britain are to be asked to spy on "Asianlooking" and Muslim students .

While Asians are easily to recognise, I suggest a yellow star for the Muslims.

We had great and successful experiences with such for a couple of years ...

you have a point there Walter. But political-islamists are targeting universities schools and mosques. Its not possible to monitor them without causing upset because they will always demand we leave them alone out of respect for religion. But they're not doing religion, they are doing politics of a very unpleasant and extreme character. We wouldn't allow fascists or violent revolutionaries to spread their poison among young people...or if we did do so- out of respect for freedom of speech- you can be sure they would be watched very closely. Thats all the government is proposing to do with these political islamists.

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Steve I cringe to think that you or any Brit would allow themselves to be manipulated into falling for this 'demonization of Muslims (and Asians)' bullshit.

For f sake look around....
Ask yourself why this didn't make the news:

A terror raid that doesn't make the headlines - despite chemical explosives and a rocket launcher

by Charlie Kimber 7th Oct 2006

Here's a police seizure of weapons that wasn't splashed all over the front pages.

This week a British National Party election candidate has been accused of possessing the largest amount of chemical explosives of its type ever found in the country. That's right, the largest ever - imagine if he'd been an Asian man. Home secretary John Reid would have held a special press conference and it would have led every news bulletin.

The home of another man charged with similar offences contained a rocket launcher and a nuclear biological suit as well as BNP literature and chemicals!

Robert Cottage of Talbot Street, Colne, and David Bolus Jackson of Trent Road, Nelson, made separate appearances in court charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose.

Cottage was arrested at his home on Thursday of last week, while retired dentist Jackson was arrested in the Lancaster area on Friday.

The 22 chemical components recovered by police are believed to be the largest haul ever found at a house in this country. Cottage stood as a BNP candidate in the Pendle council elections in May.

Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan".

Read more here
The bomb plot that didn't make the news headlines
dated 14th Oct 2006

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=9918

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Reid is a racist c*nt (in my opinion)
He told Ben Griffin (SAS soldier who refused to commit war crimes)
"You're either with us - or you're with the terrorists"
(Rich, coming from a cowardly MF who is pretty much terrorising the British Asian community)

Thank f for General Dannatt - someone who has the balls to stand up to this bunch of backwards looking, war mongering, fascists in Government right now.
It may suprise you to know that Dannatt has pretty much the backing of the whole British Army behind him.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=48836.html

The word "coup" comes up at least once - check it out

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kitchenpete wrote:

If it's only wearing a cross OUTSIDE the uniform, I agree with the BA decision.
KP

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BA policy states that jewellery may be worn underneath clothing. A BA spokesman said: "This rule applies for all jewellery and religious symbols on chains and is not specific to Christians".

Your head hurting this morning Spendy?

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ENDYMION wrote:

Steve I cringe to think that you or any Brit would allow themselves to be manipulated into falling for this 'demonization of Muslims (and Asians)' bullshit.

For f sake look around....
Ask yourself why this didn't make the news:

A terror raid that doesn't make the headlines - despite chemical explosives and a rocket launcher

by Charlie Kimber 7th Oct 2006

Here's a police seizure of weapons that wasn't splashed all over the front pages.

This week a British National Party election candidate has been accused of possessing the largest amount of chemical explosives of its type ever found in the country. That's right, the largest ever - imagine if he'd been an Asian man. Home secretary John Reid would have held a special press conference and it would have led every news bulletin.

The home of another man charged with similar offences contained a rocket launcher and a nuclear biological suit as well as BNP literature and chemicals!

Robert Cottage of Talbot Street, Colne, and David Bolus Jackson of Trent Road, Nelson, made separate appearances in court charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose.

Cottage was arrested at his home on Thursday of last week, while retired dentist Jackson was arrested in the Lancaster area on Friday.

The 22 chemical components recovered by police are believed to be the largest haul ever found at a house in this country. Cottage stood as a BNP candidate in the Pendle council elections in May.

Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan".

Read more here
The bomb plot that didn't make the news headlines
dated 14th Oct 2006

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=9918

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Reid is a racist c*nt (in my opinion)
He told Ben Griffin (SAS soldier who refused to commit war crimes)
"You're either with us - or you're with the terrorists"
(Rich, coming from a cowardly MF who is pretty much terrorising the British Asian community)

Thank f for General Dannatt - someone who has the balls to stand up to this bunch of backwards looking, war mongering, fascists in Government right now.
It may suprise you to know that Dannatt has pretty much the backing of the whole British Army behind him.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=48836.html

The word "coup" comes up at least once - check it out

I'm not demonising muslims endy and neither is the government. I happen to think Islam is rubbish, but if thats what they choose to believe, its up to them. But what we are fighting here is not religion its people who exploit religion for political ends. Dannatt made a similar point when he was interviewed on radio 4. What he said about Iraq was probably right, but he shouldnt have said it, at least not in public. Regarding the 'non news' of the BNP bomb factory, its because the BNP are a bunch of clowns who dont actually pose a threat to the security of the state. I liked the quote above from the prosecution[/i] Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan". Laughing

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Steve 41oo wrote:

you have a point there Walter. But political-islamists are targeting universities schools and mosques.

You see, when I was young, I grew up with the idea that we would never live in a police state again, when neighbours watching neighbours.

Some 17 million Germans had the bad luck that nothing changed in their country.
Nowadays, those, who spied as 'normal citizens', in univerities, factories etc are the really poor ones. Mostly to be taken literally.

When I was at univerity, of course "they" had some funny ideas about what students had to do and how they had to behave.
But that was 'watched' by normal, secret agencies - and I'd a long list there, as I learnt. (Which didn't do any harm - even when "serving the public" -, though)

re the cross/BA: it was/is about outside.

And agree, Pete, with your opinion.

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