suspendy, sweetie,
Quote:I consider Beckham to be a one off.
Rubbish! He's not a one off! he is typical of contemporary footballers and they have been that way since the very first perm. Good job there were the likes of DottyP around to help them get in touch with their feminine side. :wink:
Quote:His form has dipped which is probably why he doesn't spit so much. No doubt the personal spats are a factor. I should imagine that Posh is enough to bring even the best to their knees. A bit like that Princess we had.
I don't care much for Posh, nor Di, in fact I took the dog for a walk the day of the funeral, just to avoid the mass hysteria. His form is bound to dip - age, fatherhood, other projects, silicone seepage from posh's fake boobies (allegedly) will all contribute to this. That's the way of the world, and the world of spot - things change. Your post is but a clarion call for the world (your world) to remain static. I have noted your comments and views on sexual harassment in the workplace - as a woman with a long working history in various jobs from cleaner to management and a couple of stints trade union repping, I have firm views on this and would welcome a hearty debate with your good self regarding this contentious issue. My views may surprise you! Always assuming you are interested in what I think, I would take no offence should you consider not.
Quote:DP, never having run hard in cold air wouldn't know about spitting, which is why she is so eminently qualified to comment about it. That's an aspect of the problem. What does a ladies' hairdresser know about football? She probably likes Beckham because he promotes hair-does for men and thereby doubles the number of potential customers. Once media goes feminist, which it has for obvious commercial reasons, the rest follows automatically.
I'm assuming you are just taking the piss with this one? 'An aspect of the problem' sounds like you are saying 'only those who know, may speak'. The A2K forum is hardly a place to say such a thing. I assume DP would be the first to say she is no footy pundit, but she is entitled to say what she likes regardless of her gender. The problem I have with that paragraph of hairy bollocks is the MASSIVE assumptions you make about her - 'never having run hard in cold air'??? It's been many a year, spenders, since girls were expected to sit doing needlepoint, straight backed, strapped into corsets, only leaving their Fathers home for marriage and any exertions avoided, so as not to bring on an attack of the vapours. Of course I'm talking about about the class aspect to feminism as well, this is another reason (and a whole other debate) why I take issue with the implied in that paragraph. DP has her education, she has made her choice of profession, she works and makes her way in the world on an equal footing. She has no massive law suite pending for sexual harassment. Why? because those woman who went before, who threw themselves under horses, endured forcefeeding and torture and were brave enough to bring the law suits, that has brought about change and progression.
Quote:A woman journalist on the front page of the Daily Telegraph once wrote that the Tour de France riders had "spindly legs". Possibly the most powerful male legs on earth denigrated with a simple phrase just for a contemptuous laugh. And footballer's necessary spitting is a problem because it looks indecorous.
Probably said in jest - oooh horror! A funny woman!
Spitting has always taken place on the football field, I personally have no issues with it, mainly due to the fact that I only watch the world cup! I'm assuming that the reason why it is an issue is due to the 'role model' element - mainly to young boys. I had a recent conversation with someone about attending live matches - he said he hears the worst language, racist chanting, fighting and songs about the wives and girlfriends of the players (sexual). Not something I would want for my son. Thuggery is passed on through the generations.
Quote:You've been had suckers and all you can do is blame the lads and the FA.
Blimey!!! We can't have any blame or responsibility placed on the lads and the F.A. can we?
Quote:Better switch to netball eh. That's really exciting. You should see the red thighs and the language is a disgrace and the car park is full when their daddies bring them and call to collect them afterwards to make sure nothing untoward happens to them. And the ref blows her whistle every five seconds which is catching on elsewhere. And they control the keys to the bowling green as well which has led to some fine indignation orgies.
Blimey!!! Sport for girls!!! Extra netball facilities??? What ever will they think of next? Doing away with the dowry system? Equal pay?
Whilst picking my granddaughter up from her soccer skills club (she got a certificate - she was very proud). I noticed all the boys walked home in grubby pants, grazed knees, flicking conkers at each other whilst day-dreaming about when they will be old enough to join the army.
Quote:I don't mind either way. It's good fun. But put the sodding blame where it lies. Not on the lads.
No, not all 'The lads' surely...
But some, yes...