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smorgs wrote:

dadpad wrote:
Peter Cook and Dudley Moore had a great record album out years ago. profanity personified.

Dadpad...

You c*nt!
x

I am really, really hurt by that remark. I see no reason to attack me in such a vile and despicable manner. What did I ever do to you huh!
sheesh I'd give you the shirt off my back if yiou were cold or my first born child if you needed a sacrifice to the gods, but this attack has just devastated me.

<Puts the back of his hand to his forehead and swoons dramatically>

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I'm going into Manchester today for a Ruby with my pal Cliff.

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Hey the English Peeves thread has disappeared.

Have the Thought Police been busy?

It was getting a tad tasteless and I tried to delete my last post, but the whole thing seems to have gone now. Will it ever return?

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Day 3 of no smoking...

Anybody any idea what to do with my hands?

McTag, are you calling in the Jobcentre for a coffee or a Giro?

spendi - how come my pampering has gone out the window?

Is it 'cos I used the C word?

x

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smorgs wrote:

Day 3 of no smoking...

Anybody any idea what to do with my hands?

McTag, are you calling in the Jobcentre for a coffee or a Giro?

spendi - how come my pampering has gone out the window?

Is it 'cos I used the C word?

x

I am only a heartbeat away....but my car is in for repair since I crashed it and my heartbeat would take 3 buses at the mo.
I'm going in by train today.
I'll let you know later when to put the kettle on.
Glad to see you're feeling better.

x

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dadpad wrote:

smorgs wrote:
dadpad wrote:
Peter Cook and Dudley Moore had a great record album out years ago. profanity personified.

Dadpad...

You c*nt!
x

I am really, really hurt by that remark. I see no reason to attack me in such a vile and despicable manner. What did I ever do to you huh!
sheesh I'd give you the shirt off my back if yiou were cold or my first born child if you needed a sacrifice to the gods, but this attack has just devastated me.

<Puts>

It was just smorgies sense of humour. As men we have to understand. However if you or I alluded to that word....

And Smorgs I'm not being patronising. Women really can get away with all sorts of things now, whereas men spend half their lives treading on eggshells.

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McTag wrote:

Hey the English Peeves thread has disappeared.

So it has. I'm peeved.

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What? Do you mean.....

this thread?.....

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Lord Ellpus wrote:

What? Do you mean.....

this thread?.....

Well, .... NOW it's there again Laughing

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My car won't be ready till Friday, they say....

So why did the book it in for Tuesday?

You just can't get the staff these days.

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smorgsie wrote-

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spendi - how come my pampering has gone out the window?

Is it 'cos I used the C word?

If dadpad is equated with the object under consideration, assuming that the object can be marked off and isolated from the rest of the mechanism, then it follows from the logical rules set down in the 5th century before the appearence of our Saviour, that the object has points of similarity in common with dadpad who is inextricably linked in my mind with Chips Rafferty.

Need I say more?

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Ticomaya wrote:

dadpad wrote:
I cant see the off duty cop being all that interested in some old dude jaywalking unless there was something else. A prior exchange?

More likely he had seen a lot of jaywalking, went up to the guy to tell him to stop jaywalking, and got attitude in response. Can't imagine he was going to do anything other than give him a warning. Not like he had a citation pad in his bomber jacket. It escalated from there.

Amazing what we're missing by not living in the "Land of the Free" Rolling Eyes

To my mind there's about as much irony required in that phrase as there is in "I could care less".

KP

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kitchenpete wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
dadpad wrote:
I cant see the off duty cop being all that interested in some old dude jaywalking unless there was something else. A prior exchange?

More likely he had seen a lot of jaywalking, went up to the guy to tell him to stop jaywalking, and got attitude in response. Can't imagine he was going to do anything other than give him a warning. Not like he had a citation pad in his bomber jacket. It escalated from there.

Amazing what we're missing by not living in the "Land of the Free"

Perhaps you best not venture forth, KP. You better stay in England where you can, apparently, ignore your law enforcement officers freely.

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Ticomaya wrote:

Perhaps you best not venture forth, KP. You better stay in England where you can, apparently, ignore your law enforcement officers freely.

Not referring again to an out of duty policeman doing a different job: here, in Europe, jaywalking might cost you the equivalent of $6.50.

If such is ever fined. After the policeman showed his identification.

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Most of our law enforcement officers prefer a quiet life and taking someone to court so disturbs the general calm that it is reserved for offences which cannot be tolerated and crossing the street is not one of them.

There are exceptions of course but they are rarely considered for promotion as painstaking scrupulousness regarding the letter of the law does not lend itself to environments in which senior officers congregate.

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spendius wrote:

Most of our law enforcement officers prefer a quiet life and taking someone to court so disturbs the general calm that it is reserved for offences which cannot be tolerated and crossing the street is not one of them.

There are exceptions of course but they are rarely considered for promotion as painstaking scrupulousness regarding the letter of the law does not lend itself to environments in which senior officers congregate.

That is SO true, in my experience!

Well said, Spendius.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
Perhaps you best not venture forth, KP. You better stay in England where you can, apparently, ignore your law enforcement officers freely.

Not referring again to an out of duty policeman doing a different job: here, in Europe, jaywalking might cost you the equivalent of $6.50.

If such is ever fined. After the policeman showed his identification.

I'm not sure what the fine is here in Wichita (but in Georgia it appears to be a total of $124). The only time I'm aware of any police officer ticketing anybody at any time for jaywalking was one occasion where there were some complaints about a particular stretch of road in downtown. If any of the people unfortunate enough to be caught doing that dastardly deed were stupid enough to engage the police officer in a confrontation, and allow the matter to escalate to the degree that they were arrested due to their failure (or refusal) to identify themselves properly to the law enforcement officer (a crime by itself, according to Georgia law), it is my view that said stupid people were asking for a side trip to the law enforcement holding facility.

And that holds true to anyone stupid enough to think an off-duty police officer working a second job has any less authority than if they were working their official job. It seems you folks (and by that I'm referring to everyone appalled at History prof's treatment) are so fixated on the odd crime of jaywalking, that you do not realize he was not arrested for jaywalking. One cannot be arrested for jaywalking. One CAN be, and very often is -- even in England, I suspect -- arrested for obstructing a police officer's legal duty.

spendius wrote:

Most of our law enforcement officers prefer a quiet life and taking someone to court so disturbs the general calm that it is reserved for offences which cannot be tolerated and crossing the street is not one of them.

In other words they are too lazy to enforce the laws on the books. We have those too, although it appears this fine young man is not one of them. Our cops congregate at donut shops .... where do your lazy cops hang out?

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Seems to be a bit of hairsplitting but
- here (that is Germany) an out of duty police officer has the very same right as any other citizen .... and can of course "arrest" someone.

And - as said above - the juridictionally acting policeman has to identify himself ("Good morning My name is Hans Müller and I am an inspector at the Lippstadt police station. Here is my ID-card.") before asking the other.

But when in Rome etc

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

Seems to be a bit of hairsplitting but
- here (that is Germany) an out of duty police officer has the very same right as any other citizen .... and can of course "arrest" someone.

Yes, citizens can arrest as well, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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And - as said above - the juridictionally acting policeman has to identify himself ("Good morning My name is Hans Müller and I am an inspector at the Lippstadt police station. Here is my ID-card.") before asking the other.

But when in Rome etc

That was done in this instance (sans handing over of ID card, which is not required here). He identified himself as a uniformed police officer. In case you missed it earlier, here is the officers police report .... LINK.

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Well, I read it.

A policman - like any other civil servant - is more or less always on duty here.

But such is of course regulalted - by law, statutes .... and court sentences.
(Otherwise such persons didn't have any off-duty at all.)

No-one and no law expects that a policeman acts when he notices a misdemeanour. And in fact, someone doing such would have some difficulties working with his colleagues.

But this is only according to my personal knowledge, in Germany (and my state) and when in Rome ...

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