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[REQ] the last but four line?

 
 
Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 10:30 pm
If I want to specify a certain line on a certain page, say, the fifth line from the bottom, which of the following is the most acceptable?

[A] the last but four line
the last but fourth line
[C] the fifth line from the bottom
[D] none of the above.

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Misti26 II
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 10:48 pm
c.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 11:29 pm
A and B are not valid. C is good.

[E] the fourth to last line

E is also good.
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ilovequestions
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 02:25 am
But I sometimes hear such usages as "the last but one line" or "the last but two line" or "the last but second line". Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 08:05 am
ilovequestions wrote:
But I sometimes hear such usages as "the last but one line" or "the last but two line" or "the last but second line". Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed


Well now you can correct them.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 01:09 pm
I think all your alternatives are "correct", but counting down from the top of the page is the most familiar method of noting a specific line.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 02:22 pm
Quote:
I think all your alternatives are "correct",


You do???

"the last but two line"

You know that "two" is a noun...
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 02:30 pm
Stuh--

"Last but two" is common in the UK.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 03:15 pm
And in the US people say

"how you doing?"
"I'm doing good."

but that "don't make it right".
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 05:09 pm
Ah, Stuh. You're a verbal, international idealist.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 07:50 am
Nah...I understand that language is just a tool for communication, and that it's usage eventually redefines it's proper definition. If people want to misuse the language, that is their perogative. Heck, I do it...but that does not mean we should say "to hell with the rules" when we teach it / learn it.

Maybe some people in the UK talk like that but if they do, it's colloquial slang, and certainly can't talk or write like that in the US without people thinking "you don't know English!" And I think, in general, people on this forum want to learn how to speak American English.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 10:41 am
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And I think, in general, people on this forum want to learn how to speak American English.


Yes and know.

We have some British members, some Australian members and a few South African members--to say nothing of our third world posters from former British colonies.

Oh, Brave New World!
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 02:37 pm
Noddy24 wrote:

Yes and know.


Sounds right, but is it? Question
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 03:17 pm
Stuh--

So much in this world depends on context.
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