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16th century Please help

 
 
Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 04:06 pm
hi, I have recently received a peice of homework to complete for english and it is to gather data about woman and marriage during the 16th century in England. Is anyone familiar with this sort of history? I have a few questions that i would like to see if you guys can answer.

1.Why were marriages amongst the nobility complicated?
2.What was a womans role withing a marriage?
3.What was a mans role?
4.Why is it often supposed that Queen Elizabeth I did not marry?

Thanks, this peice of homework is for my shakespearian english work, If any of you smart historians can answer these questions (I searched google for ages but no results) then i would be greatful.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Sat 9 Sep, 2006 05:06 am
Kevinyim, I think you haven't been paying attention in class. It took me one web search to find most of the information you are looking for. The last question is your opinion based on what you have already learned about the topic (teachers tend to ask questions based on class material). I suggest you go to your school or local library and ask a reference librarian to help you learn to do research.
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kevinyim
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 10:18 am
Yes, but i have had trouble
I have been having trouble searching for it, i dont have a clue what keywords i should use within my search, all of them have brought me to shakespearian links and thats not what i want. I have been struggling for there answers and google doesnt seem to have any of them, I really need some advice of what i can do, i know i should go to a library or something but its always better to look at home on the internet first. Sad Btw the last question is what most people supposed, i dont do history for my GCSE so i dont have a clue why she did not want to marry, what i am asking is help for my english homework and not my history if i was in a history class it would be an obvious answer.
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kevinyim
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 09:48 am
=(
Please can someone help me Sad Im no good with history
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 09:57 am
We're not going to do your homework for you. Try googling "marriage courtship divorce practices 16th Century England" and see what you get.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 09:59 am
The purpose of dynastic marriage is to form or to cement political alliances. After a marriage has been concluded, a woman's sole role is to produce children who will survive into adulthood, preferrably male. Asking what the man's role was is rather akin to asking what a Prime Minister or a President do for a living, and sufficiently vague as to be meaningless. Which man did you have in mind.

GW is absolutely correct--your teacher undoubtedly wants to you to state that Elizabeth did not marry for whatever reasons your teacher has already given you. Elizabeth was the granddaughter of Henry Tudor, Henry VII of England. Her aunt, Margaret Tudor, had married James IV of Scotland, and produced a son, who became James V. He married Mary of Guise, they produced a daughter, and James promptly died. Mary Queen of Scots was six days old when James died. After the death of Edward VI and Queen Mary, and the succession of Elizabeth, if Elizabeth did not marry and produce an heir, Mary Queen of Scots was her heir, and would have been next in line for the throne. Mary Queen of Scots had been raised in France, and was a Catholic. She fled her kingdom to England after a series of political events far to complicated to go into here. Elizabeth eventually tried and executed Mary because of an equally complicated series of events, but basically, Mary was a focus for putative Catholic rebels, and since Elizabeth had not married, and had not produced an heir, Protestant England did not another Catholic Queen, and especially not another Catholic Queen named Mary. Therefore, when Mary Queen of Scots was executed, her son, who became James VI of Scotland, was in line to succeed Elizabeth, which he did in 1603.

You need to take notes in class instead of being so damned lazy that you need to go online for answers. You're only here because you were too lazy and improvident to have paid attention in class.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 10:06 am
Kevin, I spent one minute, punching in the words "virgin queen" (one of the expressions used to refer to QE1) and found a host of websites.

Here...
http://ise.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/history/virgin.html

is just one.

Play around with the words "Queen Bess", Tudor, marriage, society...etc., and use your noggin to think of, or find some new words.

If you REALLY want to learn virtually everything about Queen Elizabeth 1, whilst at the same time enjoying a very well written book that makes it all very easy to understand, try finding a book called "Legacy", by Susan Kaye.
I believe it's out of print now, but you'll still find it on somewhere like ebay or Amazon.

Truly an easy book to read. It's not like a "heavy" history book at all.
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kevinyim
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 01:05 pm
=)
thanks guys, sorry for all the hassle i caused, but this work is important.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 11 Sep, 2006 01:07 pm
Good luck.
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kevinyim
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 01:19 pm
=D
May i ask what men did in the 16th century as a job. I already know that they work for a living, but were there any specific or money making jobs that they did?
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 01:57 pm
Merkin tailor was a big occupation.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Wed 13 Sep, 2006 02:10 pm
Here are a few to start you off.........

http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/W/worstjobs/findout3.html

http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/education/tudor/Tudor_The%20Poor2.htm

http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/history/worst_jobs/tudor_stuart/index.shtml
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kevinyim
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 08:28 am
=D
All done, thanks people! Very Happy
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 14 Sep, 2006 08:33 am
I hope you know a bit more about the subject than you did before, Kevin.

...and I also hope your piece of work is well received.

Good luck.
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XspazzXmonkeyX
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 11:57 am
Sorry i dnt mean to be rude or anything!!! but i think some of u were a bit harsh on Kevinyim...telling him he is lazy and stuff..but maybe he was concentrateing in his english lessons just didnt understand the questions!!
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cazykatz
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 05:24 am
leave him alone
look you people should stop having ago at him and leave him alone!
i recently got some homework that was very similar, though it was to find out about mens jobs and positions of power in 1600s and it is very hard to find. i googled it and researched for hours and couldn't find anything! and i don't know about Kevinyim but with me our English teacher hasn't talked about this at all so there are no notes to take and i thinkn its disgarcefull that you are judging him wihtout even knowing him!
he's not trying to get you to do his homework for him he just wants some links he can find his answers to becasue trust me, it's hard to find out.
sorry Kevinyim but i still havn't found out about men' s position of power or jobs in the 1600's so i can't help you but this came up on google while i was researching this and i was so shocked at the discrimination these people are saying, becasue i'm doing more or less the same sort of thing, that i signed up and am now righting this letter!
Laughing i'll give youa cute eye roll smiley face for good luck! Rolling Eyes
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 06:55 am
Did either of the last two members to post notice that Kevinyim finished his assignment and said thanks for the help--more than a year ago?

The classroom is not the only place where one benefits from paying attention.
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Tico
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 10:14 am
I did not see this question when it was originally posted, but for any future projects on the same issue, I recommend the works of Frances and Joseph Gies, in particular:

Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages (ISBN 0-06-091468-8)

and

A Medieval Family, The Pastons of Fifteenth-Century England (ISBN 0-06-017264-9)

The time frame of the books pre-dates the 16th century a bit, but are still appropriate -- especially in England, where the succeeding Renaissance did not occur until later than the continent. Both books give an intensive overview of all aspects of everyday lives. The Paston book gives a detailed look at a particular English middle-class family.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 10:19 am
A bit from the "Paston's" is to be found online.
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