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Seekin' that Ol' 911 Truth

 
 
Magginkat
 
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Reply Wed 30 Aug, 2006 01:35 pm
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okie ---Another one of these threads? How many are there now? Another thread destined for the Humor section one of these days.


Not nearly as many of these thread as there are ones singing the praises of Chicken George, the king of corruption.

By the way, it would take a really sick person to find anything humorous about September 11, 2001 when 3000 of our own citizens were murdered, in cold blood, by other greedy self-serving citizens.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Wed 30 Aug, 2006 03:51 pm
Doubt about official version of 9/11 widespread

By Geoff Olson

Friday, August 25, 2006

With the fifth anniversary of Sept 11 on the way, there will undoubtedly be a flood of television specials, terror-alert updates, and newspaper editorials. Yet a sizable portion of the public will likely remain dubious of the authorized version of 9/11.

In a Zogby International poll from last May, 42 per cent of the sampled U.S. population believe the 9/11 Commission "concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence" in the attacks. In a Zogby poll two years earlier, 49 per cent of New York City residents said some U.S. leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on and around Sept. 11, 2001, and they consciously failed to act." In other words, intentionally let it happen. In Canada, a May 2004 Maritz Research poll had 63 per cent of respondents agreeing strongly or somewhat that "individuals within the U.S. government including the White House had prior knowledge of the plans for Sept. 11 and failed to take appropriate action to stop them."

One thing is undeniable. If skepticism about 9/11 is the province of the "tin-foil hat crowd," things are looking up for the aluminum industry.

Within this widespread constituency of doubters, there is a smaller, hardcore confederacy-those who believe 9/11 involved an "inside job." The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is vocal and persistent, maintaining a huge number of websites and blogs, and meeting for annual conferences across North America. Yet this counterculture remains almost completely off the radar of both mainstream and alternative media.

After spending time with the 9/11 material on the Internet, I can't say I've been overly impressed with heated speculation about a "pilotless drone" that supposedly penetrated the Pentagon, among other things. What's harder to discount are the truly resilient anomalies collected by independent researchers-the factual mass of contradictions, coincidences and discontinuities that respectable media and big government have chosen to ignore. (Google "WTC 7" for one of the most enduring mysteries in the official story)

Much of this material has been gathered and sourced in a new book by Toronto writer and broadcaster Barrie Zwicker, who was the first journalist in the world to express doubts about the official 9/11 narrative on national television, in late 2001. Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11, is as hard to put down as it is to dismiss-if only because no one can write off the author as a solitary kook with zero credentials. Zwicker studied for three years under Marshal McLuhan, and worked for major Canadians newspapers including the Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail. He has also been a commentator on CBC Radio and Vision TV, and taught journalism part-time for seven years at Ryerson University.

Zwicker insists the wildest 9/11 conspiracy theory is actually the one endorsed by the Kean Commission, "that 19 fanatical Arabs, directed from a cave in Afghanistan, caught the whole of the U.S. military intelligence, the whole of U.S. political and diplomatic establishments, and NORAD completely off guard."

"In this case it includes such patent absurdities as observant Muslim fanatics drinking at bars the night before 9/11, a hijacker's passport miraculously floating down from the inferno in the towers, alleged Arab hijacker Hani Hanjour who could not fly a Cessna training aircraft flying an amazing stunt manoeuvre in a 757 in order to hit an empty, newly reinforced wing of the Pentagon and cause minimal damage - instead of just diving into the roof and killing thousands."

Hence, the polls cited above on Sept. 11 don't strike Zwicker as anything strange. "This pattern of viewer, listener and reader response to questioning of the official 9/11 story has been universal since 9/11, on those few occasions when the media has raised questions. This huge questioning constituency among Joe and Jane Public has always been there."

To Zwicker, the gnawing suspicions within the general public rest on the "evidence (that) points to 9/11 as an inside job," carried out by elements within the U.S. government "to advance its agenda of resource theft, world domination and domestic control." The Arabs involved were "patsies, dupes."

So where is the "smoking gun," the incontrovertible proof of the whom, what and how? "My colleagues are the first to admit that's it not within our power to definitively declare who did what on 9/11," he writes in his book. Zwicker argues that it is the cumulative weight of existing evidence that would rule in favour of the plaintiff-in this case, the 9/11 Truth Movement.

http://www.vancourier.com/issues06/084206/opinion/084206op2.html
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 31 Aug, 2006 01:47 am
Magginkat wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
Zippo wrote:
farmerman wrote:
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Start with my first two simple questions.
I would but you've already submitted the answers you wish to hear. You're not interested in the truth


I want you to debunk my answers, that's the whole point of this thread. duh!

Now comon, why are ALL these researchers wrong ?

Tell me what you think is the truth ?

One technique of arguing when you don't have a case is to list such an abundance of links, that no one not posting here 24 x 7 would ever waste the time to investigate all of them. When people quite reasonably decide that they don't want to spend the rest of their week on a response, you are then able to pretend that you've prevailed in the debate. Why don't you list a small, manageable number of assertions at a time, so that people not willing to spend all week on this can respond specifically to your arguments? And, just for laughs, why don't you list them in your own words, instead of someone else's?



We learned from the masters of copy and paste..... flip and flop......

Next we may even work on lies and bald faced lies and Just because I said so!

Speaking of copy & paste, Brandon copies and pastes his own repetative answers day in and day out!

An attack on the poster has no value as an argument, and is often a sign that the person who uses it has no actual logic to argue.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 31 Aug, 2006 01:49 am
Magginkat wrote:
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okie ---Another one of these threads? How many are there now? Another thread destined for the Humor section one of these days.


Not nearly as many of these thread as there are ones singing the praises of Chicken George, the king of corruption.

By the way, it would take a really sick person to find anything humorous about September 11, 2001 when 3000 of our own citizens were murdered, in cold blood, by other greedy self-serving citizens.

Let me demonstrate the quality of your arguments to everyone reading this thread. Name one, and only one, example of corruption on the part of the "king of corruption," together with a bit of evidence that it's true. I await your evasion.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Sat 2 Sep, 2006 09:00 pm
This just in...
Republican Party Tests Positive for Steroids
by Steve Young

NOTE: The illustrated version of this article may be seen at
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20060902Young.html

Sept. 2, 2006 - Hollywood (americanpolitics.com) - For years, Democrats
and their political consultants have been stymied over how the American
electorate can lose complete faith in the Republican party and yet at
election time - no matter a failed a the management of deadly war, high
crimes or leaks that may have placed CIA agents in jeopardy - they seem
to vote the same GOP back into office.

Now the Dems can take some solace in the fact that it probably wasn't
their fault.

In a story that seems to have escaped the pens and microphones of the
elite liberal mainstream media(tm), 90% of the Republican officials
elected over the past six years have tested positive for illegal steroids.

"It wasn't so much a shock that we discovered the usage," said one
researcher who asked not to be identified at DNC Laboratories, "it was
that our wives weren't outed before we made the announcement."

Anabolic Diebold Steroids (ADS), artificial performance enhancers
developed at Diebold Laboratories in Ohio, have been distributed in any
number of applications but up until now have gone undetected or
unreported by the media because, as one sarcastic researcher put it,
"They're so elite and liberal.

"Up till now we've not been able to do a thorough investigation into the
problem as ADS usage is difficult to track, it leaves no trace of actual
votes, and it can easily be discarded before it can be tested," said Dr
H. Dean of DNC Labs. "But finally, when a bunch of Republicans started
getting cocky and got into a p!ssing contest, we were able to finally
test their urine samples. VoilĂ ! ADS."

The first credible evidence of ADS use came into light during the 2004
presidential election, when John Kerry seemed to walk all over a
seemingly defeated George W. Bush in the presidential debates. Polls
taken through the election day showed a wide lead for Democratic nominee
Kerry, especially in Ohio. Yet when the ballots (not actually ballots;
more like cyber votes) were "counted," Bush was declared the winner.

"We started to notice a high incidence of side effects with
controversial candidates who, despite unethical and possibly criminal
behavior in office, seemed to be Teflon-coated when it came election
time to vote for them," said Dean. "It could have been the Teflon
itself, but more likely, the Gynecomastia Breast development, testicular
atrophy in their supporters or the male-like body hair increase in women
candidates, we always traced it back to regular ADS use."

ADS delivery systems vary dependent of the venue and circumstance. In
debate settings, a drip device is stored in a small box that can easily
affixed to the back and hidden under a sports jacket and administers the
ADS throughout the contest.

During the voting process itself, ADS is applied directly onto the
voting mechanisms. For example, if it is determined that a particular
district has a likely large plurality for your opponent, ADS is
discharged causing breakdown or deletion in the amount of available
voting machines. It has yet to be determined if this is due to a racial
element in ADS itself or just one of those coincidences that happens all
the time.

ADS can also be indirectly applied through campaign funds of Secretary
of States who oversee election results with near undetectable or just a
"C'mon, this would need a huge cover-up for this to happen" process.

Lawyers close to the ADS controversy say that while its use may have
handed the Republican Party undeserved victories, steroids weren't
actually illegal in politics.

"Look, politicians always taken advantage of questionable methods to get
a leg up on their opponent," said presidential historian Doris Kearns
Goodwin. "It may not have been ADS, but it was just as effective.
Richard Nixon would have been president in 1960 if it weren't for CDC
(Counting Dead Chicagoans), a crude hallucinatory employed by the
Kennedy boys."

When presented with the findings, President Bush said that he would find
out what kind of steroids were used and get a case of them to every
Republican senator and congressman who are in a tight race.

- - - -=-=-=-=+=+=+=+=-=-=-=- - - -

Steve Young is a Senior Fellow at the Extreme Far Centrist Foundation'
Political Husbandry Conservation Centre and Stereo Repair. In his spare
time, he is also a comedy writer, columnist, LA talk show host and
author of 15 Minutes" and "Great Failures of the Extremely
Successful."(What? You STILL haven't bought it? Then visit
http://www.greatfailure.com/).
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