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Lebanese website blames Hizbullah for Qana deaths

 
 
Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 08:48 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1675713/posts


Anti-Syrian elements in Lebanon openly point finger at Hizbullah as guilty of killing of dozens of civilians in order to curtail plans for disarming group. 'Hizbullah has placed rocket launcher on building's roof and brought invalid children inside in bid to provoke Israeli response,' they write Roee Nahmias

Is Hizbullah behind the tragic incident in the village of Qana that claimed the lives of some 60 people? While the Israeli army continues to investigate the circumstances leading to the building's collapse, some in Lebanon do not hesitate to point the finger at the Shiite organization and claim it is to blame for the death of dozens.

The Lebanese website LIBANOSCOPIE , associated with Christian elements in the country and which openly supports the anti-Syrian movement called the "March 14 Forces," reported that Hizbullah has masterminded a plan that would result in the killing of innocents in the Qana village, in a bid to foil Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora's "Seven Points Plan", which calls for deployment of the Lebanese army in southern Lebanon and the disarming of Hizbullah.

'Disabled children placed inside building'

"We have it from a credible source that Hizbullah, alarmed by Siniora's plan, has concocted an incident that would help thwart the negotiations.

Knowing full well that Israel will not hesitate to bombard civilian targets, Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force. In this way, they were planning to take advantage of the death of innocents and curtail the negotiation initiative," the site stated.

The site's editors also claimed that not only did Hizbullah stage the event, but that it also chose Qana for a specific reason: "They used Qana because the village had already turned into a symbol for massacring innocent civilians, and so they set up 'Qana 2'." Notably, the incident has indeed been dubbed "The second Qana massacre" by the Arab media.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:33 pm
This is highly possible.
The building didnt come down for several hours after the attack,so it is possible that Hezbollah staged it to gain the PR advantage.

Matter of fact,its probablt what actually happened.
After all,Hezbollah considers it a win when their own children are killed.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:37 pm
And as you said earlier, mm, the children had been killed by Hizbollah and were only deposited there.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:38 pm
Freerepublic? Enough said. The Red Cross (who are actually there) have already stated that no rockets were actually fired from Qana.

As we all see where Republican conservative nutjobs are taking this country, any legitimacy behind such rightwing blogs is sorely missing.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:41 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Freerepublic? Enough said. The Red Cross (who are actually there) have already stated that no rockets were actually fired from Qana.

As we all see where Republican conservative nutjobs are taking this country, any legitimacy behind such rightwing blogs is sorely missing.


The site was linked from Freep., no one there wrote the contents on the linked site.

The Red Cross are medical workers, they don't have intel on rocket launchers.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:42 pm
I wouldn't believe them, Dookiestix. Gunga and mm are the authorities here.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:43 pm
And Brand X.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:44 pm
Quote:
"There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from here," 32-year-old Ali Abdel told IPS. "Anyone in this village will tell you this, because it is the truth."

Abdel had taken shelter in a nearby house when the shelter was bombed at 1 am. When the bombings finally let up in the morning, he went back to the bombed shelter to search for relatives.

He found his 70-year-old father and 64-year-old mother both dead inside.

"They bombed it, and afterwards I heard the screams of women, children, and a few men -- they were crying for help. But then one minute after the first bomb, another bomb struck, and after this there was nothing but silence, and the sound of more bombs around the village."

Masen Hashen, a 30-year-old construction worker from Qana who lost several family members in the air strike on the shelter, said there were no Hezbollah rockets fired from his village. "Because if they had done that now, or in the past, all of us would have left. Because we know we would be bombed."

Qana had been a shelter because no rockets were being fired from there, survivors said. "When Hezbollah fires their rockets, everyone runs away because they know an Israeli bombardment will come soon," Abdel said. "That is why everyone stayed in the shelter and nearby homes, because we all thought we'd be all right since there were no Hezbollah fighters in Qana."

Lebanese Red Cross workers in the nearby coastal city of Tyre told IPS that there was no basis for Israeli claims that Hezbollah had launched rockets from Qana.

"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a 28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear of either of those."

Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas, because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 02:49 pm
Brand X wrote:
Dookiestix wrote:
Freerepublic? Enough said. The Red Cross (who are actually there) have already stated that no rockets were actually fired from Qana.

As we all see where Republican conservative nutjobs are taking this country, any legitimacy behind such rightwing blogs is sorely missing.


The site was linked from Freep., no one there wrote the contents on the linked site.

The Red Cross are medical workers, they don't have intel on rocket launchers.

No one else is linking to this other than Freep. What part of intel is needed for one to actually hear a rocket being fired?

Just curious...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 03:00 pm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1153292036218&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744332.html
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 03:06 pm
Call me when the major news outlest in THIS country pick this up. Besides, residents (and the Red Cross) have both denied this account.

Gee, I wonder why?

Why does everybody think that Israel would be such the innocent in all of this death and destruction?

Meanwhile, it would seem as though tacit approval from our very own government likely let to these horrible deaths of innocent children.

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/CondiBeirut_215.jpg
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 07:07 pm
Israelis have posted gun-camera mpegs from the plane which attacked the building and they clearly show about a dozen rockets being launched from the building.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 07:57 pm
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 10:33 pm
Israel unfortunately seems to have its own problems with pinkos and fifth columnists just as we do. The good news is that nobody really listens to them, and they're not having any luck sabataging the present struggle.

The reality of this thing is sufficiently clear. Israel withdrew from Gaza to see if there was any real possibility of trading "land for peace", and all they got was rockets and a collosal tunnel used to kidnap Israelis. Moreover, Jewish philanthropists had paid for greenhouses in gazato provide them to the "palestinians", and the stupid savages destroyed them.

The "palestinians" destroyed Lebanon in the 70s and 80s, and were thrown out of Jordan and Egypt to the accompanyment of much carnage when they tried to destroy those two countries. Any other nation on Earth in Israel's situation would have exterminated them.

Similarly in the case of Lebanon, an Israeli pullout was answered by the construction of Iwo-Jima-like fortifications, rocket fire, terrorism and kidnappings by the hezbullies.

My advice to Ohlmert: You deserve better neighbors than you've been getting. Bring the Lebanese Christian expats back into southern Lebanon and let the hezbully supporters who have fled north with the hezbullies STAY north, and get their rocks off shooting rockets at Syria.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2006 10:55 pm
I too have heard this.
Seems highly plausible that Israel did not do the damage, but several things come to mind before getting too carried away with a conspiracy theory.
1. Israel has already apologized and expressed regret for their part in the offensive.
2. Israel has, in the recent past, bombed UN observers at their posts in Lebanon.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 03:48 am
This is good.

Many of the same people that believe Hezbollah (a terrorist group),are the same ones that accuse the US govt about lying about and taking part in,if not actually planning and carrying out,the attacks on 9/11.

That shows where their support is.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 03:51 am
candidone1 wrote:

2. Israel has, in the recent past, bombed UN observers at their posts in Lebanon.


Those UN observers were legally required to keep several hundred meters between themselves and participants and they allowed the hezbullies to totally infiltrate their position. UN and hezbully flags were flying side by side, figure it out yourself.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 10:09 am
GUnga, in your fast attempt to lay blame on the UN observers and to use the Hezbully card during the first hand perhaps you'd care to address the logic behind the Israeli admission of guilt prior to an investigation.

If it is in fact the case that Hezbollah staged the entire ordeal, then why the admission of guilt by Israel?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 10:09 am
GUnga, in your fast attempt to lay blame on the UN observers and to use the Hezbully card during the first hand perhaps you'd care to address the logic behind the Israeli admission of guilt prior to an investigation.

If it is in fact the case that Hezbollah staged the entire ordeal, then why the admission of guilt by Israel?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2006 10:16 am
The theater of Jihad

Welcome to the marquee performance of "Qana: The Fraud and the Furious," brought to you by the Acting Guild of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage.

The drama unfolded over the weekend with mob scenes across the Muslim world, ostensibly -- ostensibly -- in response to civilian deaths in Qana, Lebanon. Angry Muslims from Beirut to Gaza to Lahore set fire to American and Israeli flags. They burned effigies of Western leaders. They raised their voices in chants of "Death to America" and "Death to Israel."

The nervous nellies sitting in the world's balcony seats exclaimed that the tragedy in Qana will make the Muslims hate us more. But if the uproar over the accident in Qana -- an Israeli exception to the Hezbollah rule -- sounds like a tired old re-run to you, well, it is.

This ongoing production utilizes the same talented field of Jew-haters and West-haters and flag-burners and machete-wielders who brought you worldwide months of manufactured rage over the Mohammed cartoons, crazed riots in Nigeria over the Miss World pageant, sharia-approved murders in Somalia of World Cup soccer fans, the fictional Jenin "massacre," the fable of Mohammed al-Dura, and ululating protests over the corrupting influences of "The Satanic Verses," Theo van Gogh, Kentucky Fried Chicken and McDonald's, the sacrilegious Burger King ice-cream swirl, Valentine's Day and Piglet from "Winnie the Pooh."

The truth about Muslim outrage over Qana is that it's not really about the tragic deaths at Qana -- just like the Mohammed cartoon jihad was not really about the cartoons. It's a pretext for much grander goals to defeat the infidels -- be they Israeli, Danish, Dutch or American.

Remember: Muslim riots over the Mohammed cartoons printed by the Danish Jyllands-Posten newspaper last fall were manufactured amid attempts to bully Denmark over the International Atomic Energy Agency's decision to report Iran to the UN Security Council for continuing with its nuclear research program. Iran blamed Israel for the cartoons in a speech marking the 27th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution.

Now, the Qana jihad, gleefully stoked by Iran, is unfolding amid mounting UN Security Council pressure on Tehran to suspend its nuclear program. What better way to distract from Hezbollah's atrocities and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's annihilate-the-Jews plans than to start screaming about Israel's "war crimes" and Western crimes against humanity?

As we watch Hezbollah's horrible parade of dead children in Qana replay endlessly on television, here is a suggestion for all the intrepid American journalists gallivanting with Hezbollah's handlers in the region: Perhaps you could put down the figurative hookah pipes, take off your sympathy hajibs and find out the identity of the green-helmeted guy holding up baby corpses in Qana as props for your sensational, page-one pictures.

Is he just an ordinary bystander? A rescuer who just happened to be in the same place 10 years ago, traipsing around with dead children's bodies to exploit an accidental Israeli bombing prompted by terrorists hiding behind civilians?

A civilian volunteer or a propaganda producer?

To his credit, MSNBC reporter Richard Engel picked up on a question the blogosphere has been asking since the toddler corpse-paraders in Qana took center stage: Where were all the men? His reporting underscores Hezbollah's evil m.o. -- embedding themselves in civilian populations to force exactly the kind of tragic error from Israel that appears to have occurred at Qana. "[W]e went house to house in trying to figure out where all the young men were. It seems that some of them were fighters, some of them were Hezbollah members that were out -- this according to Hezbollah people who didn't want to be interviewed but we convinced them to talk to us."

To the photographer-stenographers who were herded to the scene eight hours after the strike, why is it that the bodies of the children were already in a state of rigor mortis? How to explain the sparkling clean pacifier clipped onto a dust-covered toddler carried around by the friendly corpse-parader? And why were the women and children kept in the building for so long? Questions abound. Answers are as scarce as men in that Qana building.

"All the world's a stage," Shakespeare wrote. The journalists of our age have chosen their costumes: court jesters in the Theater of Jihad.
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