Jesus Christ and Homosexuality.

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rex wrote:

Savant are usually male homosexuals.

And I suppose you have data to back up this bald assertion?

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He didn't state they were bald.

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Doktor S wrote:

rex wrote:

Savant are usually male homosexuals.

And I suppose you have data to back up this bald assertion?

http://www.narth.com/docs/lefthand.html

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RexRed wrote:

Doktor S wrote:
rex wrote:

Savant are usually male homosexuals.

And I suppose you have data to back up this bald assertion?

http://www.narth.com/docs/lefthand.html

Oh, brother -- Narth? Discredited by a vast majority of professional psychologists and psychiatrists as well as by just reading their ridiculous premises, you've got to come up with something better than that strawman. Are you now a member or have you ever been a member? Sorry, good night, and good luck.

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Lightwizard wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Doktor S wrote:
rex wrote:

Savant are usually male homosexuals.

And I suppose you have data to back up this bald assertion?

http://www.narth.com/docs/lefthand.html

Oh, brother -- Narth? Discredited by a vast majority of professional psychologists and psychiatrists as well as by just reading their ridiculous premises, you've got to come up with something better than that strawman. Are you now a member or have you ever been a member? Sorry, good night, and good luck.

I am not a member of any group. Smile

I just came across the article and posted it.

I really don't have any proof that homosexuals, male or female, are exclusively autistic but I think it would be odd but not shocking if that were the case.

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You do realize that the organization claims to be able to change gay people into straight people. It isn't too late where you are to be drinking, but, er, I think you've had one too many. Your Web surfing constantly runs into reefs and rocks (ouch!), and maybe this time it's on-the-rocks.

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Lightwizard wrote:

You do realize that the organization claims to be able to change gay people into straight people. It isn't too late where you are to be drinking, but, er, I think you've had one too many. Your Web surfing constantly runs into reefs and rocks (ouch!), and maybe this time it's on-the-rocks.

Well this is a difficult subject and I am not claiming to be right or wrong, I just am.

What really does God think of sex in general? Yet sex has so much taboo it is engrained in our psyche. To reason and to love out of reason and not necessity is part of human nature also. This is the mysterious union of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life.

What of this "Law of Liberty"? How can liberty be enforced by law?

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Lightwizard wrote:

You do realize that the organization claims to be able to change gay people into straight people. It isn't too late where you are to be drinking, but, er, I think you've had one too many. Your Web surfing constantly runs into reefs and rocks (ouch!), and maybe this time it's on-the-rocks.

So what do you tell someone who used to be a practicing homosexual and now is married happily with a family and living a strictly monogamous heterosexual lifestyle?

Do you just tell them they are lying or what? Why are you in such denial that people can change?

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Why do homosexuals have to change? Is there a law that says that they can't be homosexuals and love their partners?

I don't know of any such law!!

The problem with the right wing in the USA is that they have always been in favor of laws limiting HUMAN FREEDOM!. Years ago they upheld slavery, then they tried to hold back women, now they refuse to give constitutional rights to Homosexuals, Bigamists, Pederasts and those who merely wish to love their animals.

As the nation evolves, these repressive laws will change and HUMAN FREEDOM will prevail!!!

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BernardR wrote:

The problem with the right wing in the USA is that they have always been in favor of laws limiting HUMAN FREEDOM!. Years ago they upheld slavery, then they tried to hold back women, now they refuse to give constitutional rights to Homosexuals, Bigamists, Pederasts and those who merely wish to love their animals.

As the nation evolves, these repressive laws will change and HUMAN FREEDOM will prevail!!!

But it's not looking good for ANIMAL FREEDOM!

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Please inform the male chimps to stop having sex with each other.

There's no such thing as a homosexual in denial that they are actually straight. There is such a thing as someone playing heterosexual who is either in denial of being gay, otherwise suppressing it or even faking it until they make it. There are no viable examples including the few interviews on some television programs and in other media where the homosexual has given up the attraction and ceased acting on it who have married, and have or have not had children or inherited them with the marriage. If you haven't read of my experiences with so-called "straight men with families" who have ceased acting on it, I will not repeat. If anyone believes this is fair to the woman in the relationship, please explain.

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Lightwizard wrote:

Please inform the male chimps to stop having sex with each other.

Since when is animal behavior the standard for humans?

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You have the sense of humor of the Tasmanian Devil.

But there's a message there, also. Those who have argued that if homosexuality is not present in the rest of the animal world, especially those closest to humans, that it has to be unnatural. Chimps, for example, don't make it a choice although those participating don't form a chimp gay society. Can you imagine a party like that? Bring your own coconut juice.

Your behavior ID's you as mentally very close to the primates.

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real life wrote:

Lightwizard wrote:
Please inform the male chimps to stop having sex with each other.

Since when is animal behavior the standard for humans?

Since when is it not?
I am fairly certain we are neither mineral nor vegetable.

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Exactly-Doctor S- and if the animal kingdom is to be the basis for our own sexual practices, can there be any problem with what is called polyandry, polygamy, necrophilia, bestiality, and incest.

I have a problem with those who would take HUMAN FREEDOM and stop it at an arbitrary line.Someday when Human Freedom takes hold, not only will homosexuals be free from the ravages of the fundamentalist extremists who control the legal institutions in the USA, but the poor people who only want to love their sisters,their pets and the little boy down the hall will be LIBERATED!!!

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Troll, troll, troll your boat.

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BernardR wrote:

Exactly-Doctor S- and if the animal kingdom is to be the basis for our own sexual practices, can there be any problem with what is called polyandry, polygamy, necrophilia, bestiality, and incest.

I have a problem with those who would take HUMAN FREEDOM and stop it at an arbitrary line.Someday when Human Freedom takes hold, not only will homosexuals be free from the ravages of the fundamentalist extremists who control the legal institutions in the USA, but the poor people who only want to love their sisters,their pets and the little boy down the hall will be LIBERATED!!!

weak.

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Doktor S wrote:

real life wrote:
Lightwizard wrote:
Please inform the male chimps to stop having sex with each other.

Since when is animal behavior the standard for humans?

Since when is it not?
I am fairly certain we are neither mineral nor vegetable.

hi DS,

Perhaps since you believe yourself to be god, you may think you can decree that animal behavior is an acceptable standard for humans as well.

Thankfully, most humans throughout history to the present day have not agreed with either proposition.

Animal practices including eating one's offspring are not generally considered acceptable human behavior.

So using animal practices as a rationalization for the normalization of homosexual practice is about as weak as it gets.

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Doktor S wrote:

Since when is it not?
I am fairly certain we are neither mineral nor vegetable.

Ah, yes, but you forget many Christians don't believe we are animals, but that we are a fourth group known as humans. Actually, scratch that. It's not just the Christians.

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