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I say god is dead...

 
 
BDV
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 06:08 pm
Tried reading the comments and TBH it don't make much sense.....

Are you saying God is dead or doesn't exist? To say he is dead means he did exist, where is your proof? To say he doesn't exist means you have proof of this, where is it?

It is not up to anyone to prove God is alive when you state he is dead, it is up to you to prove his death and then if you prove that then you have solved one of the greatest mysteries of them all, that there is another level of existence, or even maybe that you are God....

Have to agree with Frank though:
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What a bunch of horseshyt
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 06:32 pm
Just because you rely on self-served misrepresentations of my statements doesn't mean that god isn't as dead as the reasons why we created it in the first place.

Let's see:

God is not a person or a "being" nor an animal. It is a concept. The concept of god is dead. We don't need it anymore. We know pretty much how the world works; hey! we know that we are not the center of the universe for that matter. Now:

Some people still believe in such concepts, they say that god created the world, that he knows what happens to the tiniest mosquito in the forest and that "he" for some reason loves us humans very much. These individuals need to provide proof of these allegations for which there isn't a shred of evidence.

Atheists don't have to prove that god doesn't exist. It just doesn't. Do you still need "proof"?

produce a list of five reasons why you think god does exist; no, make it three because I'm also going to ask how this knowledge became available to you:

Did you picked it up off some book?

Or god "spoke" to you directly?

You could just have imagined it you know... :wink:
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BDV
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 06:46 pm
Well for one I didn't say he does exist, secondly I didn't say he doesn't exist, lastly your arguments are so weak that even I could prove "A God" existed or the possibility of "A God" better than anything you have written to disprove it.

God exists because he just does....

There you go.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:00 pm
selfruled wrote:
Do you hope that'll bring your god back from the grave? Very Happy


I have no gods, Jerkhoff.
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:03 pm
So you've said nothing.

Look my friend:

The existence of god is not based on any hard evidence; it any were available no one would be an atheist. God is a concept, something we invented based on our ignorance. God exists in the mind of whoever wants or needs to accept it. That is why a non-believer isn't responsible for presenting any proof. If you say it exists who am I to argue? How will I ever be able to convince you if the reason you believe in ti is based on emotion? People want to believe so no matter what; they will.
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:05 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
selfruled wrote:
Do you hope that'll bring your god back from the grave? Very Happy


I have no gods, Jerkhoff.


Oh!

So ad hominem is just a sport to you? Very Happy
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:05 pm
selfruled wrote:
Just because you rely on self-served misrepresentations of my statements doesn't mean that god isn't as dead as the reasons why we created it in the first place.

Let's see:

God is not a person or a "being" nor an animal. It is a concept.


Really. And you are asserting this as a fact????


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The concept of god is dead. We don't need it anymore. We know pretty much how the world works; hey! we know that we are not the center of the universe for that matter. Now:


Is there no end to your triteness?


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Some people still believe in such concepts, they say that god created the world, that he knows what happens to the tiniest mosquito in the forest and that "he" for some reason loves us humans very much. These individuals need to provide proof of these allegations for which there isn't a shred of evidence.

Atheists don't have to prove that god doesn't exist. It just doesn't. Do you still need "proof"?


Oh really.

In other words, atheists are allowed to assert their bullshyt and not back it up...but when theists assert their bullshyt, they DO have to back it up?

Gosh...that doesn't seem fair!

And it shouldn't seem fair even to a retard like you.


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produce a list of five reasons why you think god does exist; no, make it three because I'm also going to ask how this knowledge became available to you:


Produce a list of three reasons for your assertion that gods do not exist.

I'm going to laugh at them...like I am laughing at your silly arrogance.


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Did you picked it up off some book?

Or god "spoke" to you directly?

You could just have imagined it you know... :wink:


Picking a jerk like you apart is going to be so much fun.

I love you...right from the tip of your toes to the point at the top of your head.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:06 pm
selfruled wrote:
So you've said nothing.

Look my friend:

The existence of god is not based on any hard evidence; it any were available no one would be an atheist. God is a concept, something we invented based on our ignorance. God exists in the mind of whoever wants or needs to accept it. That is why a non-believer isn't responsible for presenting any proof. If you say it exists who am I to argue? How will I ever be able to convince you if the reason you believe in ti is based on emotion? People want to believe so no matter what; they will.


Yes...I am laughing at YOUR silly belief system right now.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:06 pm
selfruled wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
selfruled wrote:
Do you hope that'll bring your god back from the grave? Very Happy


I have no gods, Jerkhoff.


Oh!

So ad hominem is just a sport to you? Very Happy


Picking apart twerps like you is a sport to me, Selfruled.
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:10 pm
But you rely on ad hominem to do it right?

I mean; you've shown nothing else. :wink:
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Casino Joe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:11 pm
Frank, you are a charmer! At which point in this thread were you given carte blanche to call self-ruled a "retard" and a "jerk off"? I don't recall him hurling personal abuse at you!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:12 pm
selfruled wrote:
But you rely on ad hominem to do it right?

I mean; you've shown nothing else. :wink:


I shown plenty "else."

You simply do not have the brainpower to see it.

But I will take my arguments to you in small steps so that even you eventually will be able to follow them.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:14 pm
Casino Joe wrote:
Frank, you are a charmer!


Why thank you.


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At which point in this thread were you given carte blanche to call self-ruled a "retard" and a "jerk off"?


Right at the beginning. Didn't you notice?


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I don't recall him hurling personal abuse at you!


Ahhh...that is the problem here. You have me confused with someone who gives a rat's ass what you recall or do not recall.

We can straighten that out.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:15 pm
Bad golf day, Frank?
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:16 pm
Frank wrote:

"Produce a list of three reasons for your assertion that gods do not exist.

I'm going to laugh at them...like I am laughing at your silly arrogance."


Here we go:

1. If any existed there would be no need to prove otherwise.

More will come; I don't want you to have a heart attack. Very Happy
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:17 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Bad golf day, Frank?


Had to work!

As a starter at my regular golf course, no less.

I can be very testy on "starter" days!

And these two are lulu's.

I really needed this! Twisted Evil
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Casino Joe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:18 pm
Still waiting for Frank to "show us" something...tumtetum te tum...think we'll be here for a long time...waiting, still waiting...

Laughing
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:18 pm
selfruled wrote:
Frank wrote:

"Produce a list of three reasons for your assertion that gods do not exist.

I'm going to laugh at them...like I am laughing at your silly arrogance."


Here we go:

1. If any existed there would be no need to prove otherwise.

More will come; I don't want you to have a heart attack. Very Happy


Well if they all come down to this level...don't bother.

This one doesn't work at all.

But I want to be a decent guy...and I will give you a chance to flesh it out into something we can at least laugh at. As it is...it is like cold oatmeal.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:19 pm
Casino Joe wrote:
Still waiting for Frank to "show us" something...tumtetum te tum...think we'll be here for a long time...waiting, still waiting...

Laughing


I got something to "show ya!"

Right heah!
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selfruled
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 07:22 pm
Casino Joe wrote:
Frank, you are a charmer! At which point in this thread were you given carte blanche to call self-ruled a "retard" and a "jerk off"? I don't recall him hurling personal abuse at you!


And you never will Casino.

I've seen so many bite the dust based on nothing but charm.
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