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blatham
 
Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 04:52 am
the story

Is it part of God's plan that children become puppy-chow?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 05:02 am
360 degree view of Beirut suburb

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/panorama/2006/07/20/PA2006072001249.html
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 05:28 am
America and Americans will be blessed, because they fully support the actions of 'gods chosen people' .

American aid gone to a very good cause.

Your tax dollars at work.

God Bless America !
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:00 am
This isn't a partisan issue, for fukk sakes.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:11 am
blatham wrote:
This isn't a partisan issue, for fukk sakes.

Indeed. Some folks see the world only through glasses lensed with their own agenda. Which, pretty much, has an awful lot to do with what is awful in this world.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:21 am
I hope you won't mind Mr. Mountie if i link your thread in the thread i started about this issue. It is very much a venue for partisan comments, but i have been keeping the evacuation issue as up-to-date as possible. I have previously left out news of the American evacuation efforts, as so many of our members are Americans, and can easily get television and print news of those efforts.

However, i think it would be good to provide information of this type in my thread. I'll be careful to point out there that your intent was not partisan politics. It might help if the moderators move this thread from Politics to International News.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:30 am
"Civil structure appears to have broken down almost completely. Ambulances haven't been able to operate. The dead are rotting in the rubble of smashed homes. Food and clean drinking water are running out. Nearly 100 bodies have piled up in a poorly refrigerated container at a hospital in a Palestinian refugee camp close to Tyre; there's too much violence to pick up the dead or to hold funerals."

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Nathan replied to the king, "Whatever you have in mind, go ahead and do it, for the LORD is with you."
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:34 am
BBB
Blatham, thanks for this thread.

I keep up with Lebanon news via The Daily Star:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/home3.asp

It's editor is a very smart man.


BBB
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 11:09 am
Amigo wrote:
"Civil structure appears to have broken down almost completely. Ambulances haven't been able to operate. The dead are rotting in the rubble of smashed homes. Food and clean drinking water are running out. Nearly 100 bodies have piled up in a poorly refrigerated container at a hospital in a Palestinian refugee camp close to Tyre; there's too much violence to pick up the dead or to hold funerals."

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Nathan replied to the king, "Whatever you have in mind, go ahead and do it, for the LORD is with you."


The reason why they (Israelis) can get away with this is because, i think those jews use their FISTs and penetrade into the congrASS !

But if we don't support Israel blindly, we are anti-semites!

You don't want to be like Hitler, do you?

Spain denies anti-Semitism in criticizing Israel
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 12:24 pm
the daily star?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/bikinibabe.html

oh that daily star
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 04:55 am
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The reason why they (Israelis) can get away with this is because, i think those jews use their FISTs and penetrade into the congrASS !

Likely the least witty 'joke' or 'satire' I've come across in a long while.

There is a good reason why this administration does everything it can to suppress accounts and photographs which reflect the realities of war. People will mobilize against such projects.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 09:02 am
Lebonese soldiers killed
Veteran Reporter for British Paper, Based in Beirut, Recounts Chilling Episode
By E&P Staff
Published: July 21, 2006

Robert Fisk, chief Middle East correspondent for the daily London newspaper, The Independent, has lived in Beirut for almost three decades. In recent years he has closely covered the Iraq war and other regional struggles and is the author of several books, including "Pity the Nation: The Abduction of Lebanon."

Amy Goodman, for her popular national radio show, which also appears on cable TV, "Demcoracy Now," reached Fisk at his home in Beirut for an interview that produced a particularly chilling episode involving three Lebanese soldiers and how they met their end. A portion of the transcript of the interview follows. The entire interview can be found at www.democracynow.org.
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ROBERT FISK: It amazes me -- I mean, living here in Beirut, as I have for 30 years. Here are the Lebanese people, sophisticated, educated, cosmopolitan, people who don't look like the Arab world, they look like us; I mean, people who could be quite at home on the streets of Paris or New York and London, and some of them are; people who read, who are very well educated; people who speak English fluently, French beautifully, and fluent Arabic, as well, of course; and who, when they die in such large numbers, the best we can produce is a call for restraint by the State Department and a claim by the British, our own dear Tony Blair, that the Israelis are using disproportionate force....

It's a tragedy of immense proportions, because it's also tearing apart a country. In the last 24 hours we found the Israelis have turned to attacking a milk factory, Liban Lait -- it's actually the producers of milk I drink every morning in my tea -- a paper box factory, for heaven's sakes, hardly a terrorist target. We've already seen them smash up the runways of Beirut Airport and destroy part of the -- most of the lighthouse, the new Manara lighthouse, in Beirut. The Israelis today even attacked the factory which imports Procter & Gamble goods here. We've had an ambulance convoy, a convoy of new ambulances from the United Emirates, cross from Syria into Lebanon, got attacked from the air. It's an all-out war against the economy infrastructure of a country that was at last beginning to look modern again, after the 15 years of civil war, which cost 150,000 lives. And it's very sad to see.

I think the massacre of the innocents must obviously apply to both sides. The Israeli dead have an equal right to that claim. But the scale -- I mean, "disproportionate" is not the word for it -- the scale of the response is obscene.

Even a small example, I'll give you. Yesterday, something fell out of the sky over a small area of Beirut called Qurashim [sic]. I think it was part of the wing, the wingtip of an F-16. The Israelis say it's not, but I think it probably was. And it crashed in a fiery volcano glow and burned trees, bushes, the roadway, and decapitated a young man in his car who was driving home to his family.

I got there in about eight minutes. And there were three very friendly Lebanese soldiers. By chance, I knew one of them, the sergeant, who said, "Mr. Robert, you must be very careful. The Israelis will come back and bomb again, but we'll take you into the fire and show you as much as we can." And they stood around me and protected me as we went up the road for about a mile walking -- or running, to be very honest with you, because Mr. Fisk here is not a very brave warrior. And I saw parts of what appears to be a wing. I think it was burning fuel all over the road. I think it came out of whatever the aircraft was. I think what actually happened is a Hezbollah missile probably hit an F-16, and the Israelis didn't want to claim it. They said that it was part of a barrel containing propaganda pamphlets and leaflets, which -- well, I didn't see leaflets anyway, and I know they burn on fuel, but anyway, I saw what I could and got away afterwards and said, you know, waved at the soldiers and thanked them.

And the Israelis did come back some hours later and bombed the barracks of these soldiers, which were members of a logistics unit. Their job was to repair bridges and electrical lines. They weren't combat soldiers. And they killed ten Lebanese soldiers, including the three young men who had protected me the previous day. This was outrageous, because the Israelis know what each individual Lebanese army unit is doing. They know if it's a combat unit, armored personnel carriers, helicopters, whatever.

And they picked on this sole barracks to destroy those men, to exterminate them, because, of course, their job was to keep Beirut alive, to keep the power systems running, to repair the bridges which were being destroyed -- 46 bridges now, according to Minister of Finance, who told me this a few hours ago, have been destroyed in Lebanon. This is the inheritance, of course, of former prime minister, assassinated prime minister Rafik Hariri, who was murdered on the 14th of February last year. He rebuilt this country. He rebuilt the city of Beirut.

Now, bit by bit the bridges, the lighthouse, the international airport are being destroyed.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:03 am
Construction boom goes bust - for now
Saturday, July 22, 2006
Construction boom goes bust - for now
Developers take wait-and-see approach toward future investment
By Lysandra Ohrstrom
Daily Star staff

BEIRUT: The countless cranes on Beirut's skyline may have stopped moving since Israel began its bombardment of Lebanon 10 days ago, but Gulf investors who have funneled billions of petro-dollars into high-end real-estate projects are not abandoning Lebanon just yet. Regional developers are taking a wait-and-see approach before deciding how to move forward. Some are more apprehensive than others about the security of their investments.

The estimated 11 major construction projects in the pipeline for Beirut Central District (BCD) are on hold.

Mounir Douaidee, the General Manager of Solidere, said that it was still too early to determine the long-term implications of the violence for Lebanon's investment climate, but admitted property transactions were "paralyzed."

"Maybe next week or the week after we'll have a better idea but at this point it's premature to give an opinion on whether the value of real-estate will go one way or another," Douaidee said over the phone from Solidere's downtown headquarters.

He dismissed rumors that Solidere had transferred part of its staff to Saudi Arabia due to security concerns and said he was not aware of any investors panicking or pulling out of projects.

But a Beirut-based real-estate developer with projects throughout the Levant region told The Daily Star that while his investors are "worried silly," he had no plans to abandon any existing projects - all of which are currently "frozen."

"We are sitting and waiting and watching," said Michael Dunne. "My desire is to come back, take a seat at my desk and press on with our projects, and do what's best for our investors and Lebanon."

It is yet to be seen whether Israel's military campaign will undermine the country's recently restored credibility with foreign investors, especially GCC nationals. Gulf investment caused the value of property transactions in Beirut to rise by 88 percent since 2001. Foreign direct investment accounted for 10 percent of GDP in 2005.

The International credit rating agency, Fitch Ratings, revised Lebanon's rating from Positive to Stable after less than a week of violence and said the extent of the economic damage will depend on the time-frame and severity of Israel's attacks.

But Gulf real-estate developers seem less inclined to write Lebanon off.

Dubai-based DAMAC properties announced that it would continue the development of the $150 million "La Residence by Ivana Trump" and that it even intends to go ahead with an expansion plan. Kuwait-based Levant Holdings said it would resume the construction of the $1.1 billion Phoenicia Village as soon as a resolution is in sight. Emirati Investment Firm Shuaa Capital insisted it had no intention of pulling out.

"Lebanon has always been a favorite destination for inter-Arab investment and has never been politically stable," said Salah Al-Mayyal, the CEO of Levant Holdings. "If they stop today the country will get back to normal in 4-6 months times." Whatever the long-term outcome, very few people in Lebanon are worrying about real-estate development or transactions.

The unrelenting sounds of construction that had become a part of daily life in Beirut have been replaced by disconcerting silence for the lucky few, and fly-over and bombs for everyone else.

"Nobody is thinking about construction right now, they are thinking about the people who are dying or their own safety," said the head of Lebanon's Contractor's Syndicate, Fouad Jamil Khazen.

"There are no laborers because all the Syrians have left, the town is empty at night, and there are no trucks bringing sand, cement or gravel. The country is paralyzed," he said.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:05 am
Discrediting Fouad Siniora to save him
Saturday, July 22, 2006
Discrediting Fouad Siniora to save him
By David Ignatius
Daily Star staff

You could sense the hurt and anger as Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora pleaded this week to the American ambassador and other diplomats in Beirut for a halt to Israeli attacks on Lebanese targets. "The country has been torn to shreds," he said. "I hope you will not let us down."

The challenge for the Bush administration as the Lebanon war explodes into its second week is just that - to keep faith with Siniora and his "Cedar Revolution," even as it stands by its close ally, Israel. This isn't simply a question of appearances and public diplomacy. Unless Siniora's government can be strengthened, there is little hope for achieving the American and Israeli goal of bringing Hizbullah's guerrillas under lasting control.

"America's role is to energize a political outcome that helps to satisfy Israeli military objectives by other means," says Bush one administration official. The problem is that the American diplomatic timetable is so slow that by the time a cease-fire is reached - more than a week off, by US estimates - Lebanon may be too broken to be put back together anytime soon.

Administration officials rightly insist that returning to the status quo in Lebanon would be a mistake. After last year's triumph of forcing a withdrawal of Syrian troops, Siniora's government was struggling (and largely failing) to establish a viable nation. This nation-building effort was hamstrung by Hizbullah's insistence that it maintain what amounted to a state within a state.

The administration's strategy is to let Israel do the dirty work of breaking Hizbullah, and then move in a foreign "stabilization force" to bolster the Lebanese Army. Once Israel has pushed the guerrillas north, this international force would help the Lebanese Army deploy to the southern border with Israel and the eastern border with Syria. The plan is for a beefed-up successor to the existing United Nations force in Southern Lebanon, known as UNIFIL.

The administration's informal deadline for getting a UN mandate for this new international force is July 31, when UNIFIL's current mandate expires. The French now command that force, and the US hopes they can remain in that role, with new troops coming from such robust military powers as Italy, Turkey and Canada.

Siniora has privately warned the Bush administration that by bombing so many targets in Lebanon, Israel is undermining its own strategic goals. Lebanese are angry with Hizbullah for starting the war by kidnapping Israeli soldiers, and most want to see the militia under government control. But Siniora has angrily asked why the Israelis are hitting Lebanese airports, ports, roads, villages, facilities and other targets that primarily impact civilians. And he has denounced attacks on the Lebanese Army, which even the Israelis say is the key to long-run stability and security.

Some Bush administration officials share Siniora's concern about the scope of Israeli attacks. These officials are said not to fathom Israeli targeting decisions. The administration is understood to have communicated this concern to the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

The Lebanon crisis has put the administration in a double bind. US officials know they need to move quickly toward a cease-fire to preserve any chance for the Siniora government to regain control of the country. But they don't want to move so quickly that they prevent Israel from completing its primary military mission of destroying Hizbullah's arsenal of missiles and pushing the Shiite guerrillas back from the border. The administration's two-track approach is perhaps summed up in Augustus Caesar's famous admonition: "Make haste slowly."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will head for the Middle East this weekend to try to animate this diplomacy. She has no plans to stop in Syria, and that's a sensible decision. It's up to the Syrians to demonstrate that they can play a positive role - not least to their Sunni Arab neighbors, who are angry about President Bashar Assad's alliance with Shiite Iran and its proxies. A recent claim by Syrian intelligence officials that they have no control over Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal is said to have infuriated Egypt's intelligence chief, Omar Suleiman, who responded indignantly: "Don't give us that! We are not Mauritania! We are Egypt!"

Supporting Israel and Lebanon at the same time is a tricky task - especially at a moment when the bombs are flying between one nation and the other. Unless the administration moves quickly to demonstrate that it supports the Siniora government, and not just Israel, its larger strategy for diffusing the conflict may begin to unravel. Administration officials recognize that a stable Lebanon cannot be achieved by military action alone. But for now, all the world sees is Hizbullah rockets and Israeli bombs.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 07:59 am
British split with Bush as Israeli tanks roll in
British split with Bush as Israeli tanks roll in
· Minister attacks 'disproportionate' raids
· 2,000 troops cross into Lebanon

Ned Temko, Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv and Peter Beaumont in Beirut
Sunday July 23, 2006
The Observer

Britain dramatically broke ranks with George Bush last night over the Lebanon crisis, publicly criticising Israel's military tactics and urging America to 'understand' the price being paid by ordinary Lebanese civilians. The remarks, made in Beirut by the Foreign Office minister, Kim Howells, were the first public criticism by this country of Israel's military campaign, and

placed it at odds with Washington's strong support. The Observer can also reveal that Tony Blair voiced deep concern about the escalating violence during a private telephone conversation with the Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, last week. But sources close to Blair said Olmert had replied that Israel faced a dire security threat from the Hizbollah militia and was determined to do everything necessary to defeat it.

Britain's shift came as Israeli tanks and warplanes pounded targets across the border in southern Lebanon yesterday ahead of an imminently expected ground offensive to clear out nearby Hizbollah positions, which have been firing dozens of rockets onto towns and cities inside Israel.

Downing Street sources said last night that Blair still believed Israel had every right to respond to the missile threat, and held the Shia militia responsible for provoking the crisis by abducting two Israeli soldiers and firing rockets into Israel. But they said they had no quarrel with Howells's scathing denunciation of Israel's military tactics.

Speaking to a BBC reporter before travelling on for talks in Israel, where he will also visit the missile-hit areas of Haifa and meet his Israeli opposite number, Howells said: 'The destruction of the infrastructure, the death of so many children and so many people: these have not been surgical strikes. If they are chasing Hizbollah, then go for Hizbollah. You don't go for the entire Lebanese nation.' The minister added: 'I very much hope that the Americans understand what's happening to Lebanon.'

Only hours earlier, President Bush used his weekly radio address to place the blame for the crisis squarely on Hizbollah and its Syrian and Iranian backers. He said that his Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, who is due to leave for the Middle East today, would 'make it clear that resolving the crisis demands confronting the terrorist group that launched the attacks and the nations that support it'.

Blair is scheduled to meet Bush in Washington at the start of a US visit on Friday. Senior diplomats said that it was highly unlikely there would be a major diplomatic move to restrain Israel's planned southern Lebanon incursion at least until then.

An advance force of tanks and about 2,000 troops moved across the border yesterday, although some of the soldiers later pulled back into Israel. The advance was backed by a fierce barrage of air strikes, including a half-tonne bomb dropped on a Hizbollah outpost. Israel focused much of its fire on the village of Maroun al-Ras, on the crest of a hill less than a kilometre across the border. It was swathed in a thick swirl of smoke.

Specially armour-plated D-9 bulldozers have also been brought in to level networks of foxholes and underground bunkers dug by Hizbollah.

Israel's army chief of staff, Dan Halutz, told reporters in Tel Aviv on Friday that any military incursion would be limited in scope. 'We will fight terror wherever it is, because if we do not fight it, it will fight us. If we don't reach it, it will reach us,' he said. 'We will also conduct limited ground operations as much as needed in order to harm the terror that harms us.'

Israeli Radio broadcast renewed warnings yesterday to civilians to flee the area by 7pm local time last night, but reports emerged of Lebanese casualties, including a seriously injured woman who was taken to a hospital in the northern Israeli town of Safed.

An adviser to Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz told The Observer: 'We are finally going to fight Hizbollah on the ground. The Israeli people are ready for this, and the Sunni Muslim world also expects us to fight Shia fundamentalism. We are going to deliver.'

But he added: 'We have no intention of conquering and holding territory. We plan to clean a strip a mile from our border of Hizbollah bunkers and rocket-launching sites ... We will go in and then we will go out.'

The Israeli air force dropped leaflets on southern Lebanon this week telling residents to leave to avoid getting harmed in the fighting. Among the hundreds of thousands of people fleeing, there were few able-bodied men of military age.

Ali Suleiman, 50, from a village near the coastal city of Tyre, said his eldest son had joined Hizbollah. 'When he dies I will send another son and another and another. Tell Mr Blair, Muslims are not afraid - not of bombs or ships or hunger. We get our power from God.'

Hizbollah has operated freely in the border region since Israel withdrew six years ago, and is believed to have amassed an arsenal of around 12,000 rockets. More than a week of air strikes have done little to prevent Hizbollah from firing rockets at areas in northern Israel, including Haifa. Yesterday more than 65 rockets fell - a dramatic increase from the previous 24 hours. Twelve Israelis were injured.

Britain's decision to break ranks publicly with the Americans will cause deep concern in Jerusalem, and a senior Israeli diplomat was at pains last night to play down any suggestion of a rift.

He said it would be wrong to interpret Olmert's response to Blair's telephone call as a rebuff. 'The tone was very positive. We agree on all major aspects of this crisis and are greatly appreciative of Britain's position.'

The Israeli leader's comments, the source said, merely reflected his 'absolute determination to deal with Hizbollah and to see that the UN resolutions requiring it to be disarmed are finally carried through'. He said Olmert had insisted Israel was hitting only targets related to Hizbollah.

Senior British sources stressed that they continued to hold Hizbollah, and its Syrian and Iranian supporters, responsible for igniting the crisis. They added that both the Syrian and Iranian ambassadors to London had been called into the Foreign Office last week to drive that message home.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 08:04 am
Israel set war plan more than a year ago
Israel set war plan more than a year ago
Strategy was put in motion as Hezbollah began gaining military strength in Lebanon
Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service
Friday, July 21, 2006

Israel's military response by air, land and sea to what it considered a provocation last week by Hezbollah militants is unfolding according to a plan finalized more than a year ago.

In the six years since Israel ended its military occupation of southern Lebanon, it watched warily as Hezbollah built up its military presence in the region. When Hezbollah militants kidnapped two Israeli soldiers last week, the Israeli military was ready to react almost instantly.

"Of all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared," said Gerald Steinberg, professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University. "In a sense, the preparation began in May 2000, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal, when it became clear the international community was not going to prevent Hezbollah from stockpiling missiles and attacking Israel. By 2004, the military campaign scheduled to last about three weeks that we're seeing now had already been blocked out and, in the last year or two, it's been simulated and rehearsed across the board."

More than a year ago, a senior Israeli army officer began giving PowerPoint presentations, on an off-the-record basis, to U.S. and other diplomats, journalists and think tanks, setting out the plan for the current operation in revealing detail. Under the ground rules of the briefings, the officer could not be identified.

In his talks, the officer described a three-week campaign: The first week concentrated on destroying Hezbollah's heavier long-range missiles, bombing its command-and-control centers, and disrupting transportation and communication arteries. In the second week, the focus shifted to attacks on individual sites of rocket launchers or weapons stores. In the third week, ground forces in large numbers would be introduced, but only in order to knock out targets discovered during reconnaissance missions as the campaign unfolded. There was no plan, according to this scenario, to reoccupy southern Lebanon on a long-term basis.

Israeli officials say their pinpoint commando raids should not be confused with a ground invasion. Nor, they say, do they herald another occupation of southern Lebanon, which Israel maintained from 1982 to 2000 -- in order, it said, to thwart Hezbollah attacks on Israel. Planners anticipated the likelihood of civilian deaths on both sides. Israel says Hezbollah intentionally bases some of its operations in residential areas. And Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has bragged publicly that the group's arsenal included rockets capable of bombing Haifa, as occurred last week.

Like all plans, the one now unfolding also has been shaped by changing circumstances, said Eran Lerman, a former colonel in Israeli military intelligence who is now director of the Jerusalem office of the American Jewish Committee.

"There are two radical views of how to deal with this challenge, a serious professional debate within the military community over which way to go," said Lerman. "One is the air power school of thought, the other is the land-borne option. They create different dynamics and different timetables. The crucial factor is that the air force concept is very methodical and almost by definition is slower to get results. A ground invasion that sweeps Hezbollah in front of you is quicker, but at a much higher cost in human life and requiring the creation of a presence on the ground."

The advance scenario is now in its second week, and its success or failure is still unfolding. Whether Israel's aerial strikes will be enough to achieve the threefold aim of the campaign -- to remove the Hezbollah military threat; to evict Hezbollah from the border area, allowing the deployment of Lebanese government troops; and to ensure the safe return of the two Israeli soldiers abducted last week -- remains an open question. Israelis are opposed to the thought of reoccupying Lebanon.

"I have the feeling that the end is not clear here. I have no idea how this movie is going to end," said Daniel Ben-Simon, a military analyst for the daily Haaretz newspaper.

Thursday's clashes in southern Lebanon occurred near an outpost abandoned more than six years ago by the retreating Israeli army. The place was identified using satellite photographs of a Hezbollah bunker, but only from the ground was Israel able to discover that it served as the entrance to a previously unknown underground network of caves and bunkers stuffed with missiles aimed at northern Israel, said Israeli army spokesman Miri Regev.

"We knew about the network, but it was fully revealed (Wednesday) by the ground operation of our forces," said Regev. "This is one of the purposes of the pinpoint ground operations -- to locate and try to destroy the terrorist infrastructure from where they can fire at Israeli citizens."

Israeli military officials say as much as 50 percent of Hezbollah's missile capability has been destroyed, mainly by aerial attacks on targets identified from intelligence reports. But missiles continue to be fired at towns and cities across northern Israel.

"We were not surprised that the firing has continued," said Tzachi Hanegbi, chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. "Hezbollah separated its leadership command-and-control system from its field organization. It created a network of tiny cells in each village that had no operational mission except to wait for the moment when they should activate the Katyusha rocket launchers hidden in local houses, using coordinates programmed long ago to hit Nahariya or Kiryat Shemona, or the kibbutzim and villages."

"From the start of this operation, we have also been active on the ground across the width of Lebanon," said Brig. Gen. Ron Friedman, head of Northern Command headquarters. "These missions are designed to support our current actions. Unfortunately, one of the many missions which we have carried out in recent days met with slightly fiercer resistance."

Israel didn't need sophisticated intelligence to discover the huge buildup of Iranian weapons supplies to Hezbollah by way of Syria, because Hezbollah's patrons boasted about it openly in the pages of the Arabic press. As recently as June 16, less than four weeks before the Hezbollah border raid that sparked the current crisis, the Syrian defense minister publicly announced the extension of existing agreements allowing the passage of trucks shipping Iranian weapons into Lebanon.

But to destroy them, Israel needed to map the location of each missile.

"We need a lot of patience," said Hanegbi. "The (Israeli Defense Forces) action at the moment is incapable of finding the very last Katyusha, or the last rocket launcher primed for use hidden inside a house in some village."

Moshe Marzuk, a former head of the Lebanon desk for Israeli Military Intelligence who now is a researcher at the Institute for Counter-Terrorism in Herzliya, said Israel had learned from past conflicts in Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza -- as well as the recent U.S. experiences in Afghanistan and Iraq -- that a traditional military campaign would be counter-effective.

"A big invasion is not suitable here," said Marzuk. "We are not fighting an army, but guerrillas. It would be a mistake to enter and expose ourselves to fighters who will hide, fire off a missile and run away. If we are to be on the ground at all, we need to use commandos and special forces."



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Since fighting started
-- Israeli air strikes on Lebanon have hit more than 1,255 targets, including 200 rocket-launching sites.

-- Hezbollah launched more than 900 rockets and missiles into northern Israel.

-- At least 330 Lebanese have been killed, including 20 soldiers and three Hezbollah guerrillas. Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora says 1,100 have been wounded; the police put the number at 657.

-- 32 Israelis have been killed, among them 17 soldiers, according to Israeli authorities. At least 12 soldiers and 344 civilians have been wounded.

-- Foreign deaths include eight Canadians, two Kuwaiti nationals, one Iraqi, one Sri Lankan and one Jordanian.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 11:12 am
BBB

Thanks for data.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jul, 2006 09:36 am
Shadid Risks Life to Describe Civilian Carnage in Lebanon
Shadid Risks Life to Describe Civilian Carnage in Lebanon
Anthony Shadid
By E&P Staff
Published: July 23, 2006 11:30 PM ET

Anthony Shadid, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for The Washington Post, has provided some of the most gripping -- and dangerously reported -- articles on the death and destruction across south Lebanon in the current conflict.

Shadid, one of the few Arabic-speaking Western journalists in the area, also risked his life for many weeks in Baghdad near the start of the the Iraq war in 2003.

His front page story for The Post on Monday opens with the following passages. The entire article is online at www.washingtonpost.com.

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The day ended in Tyre as it began, with a desperate cry of grief.

"Where's my father? Where's my father?" asked Mahmoud Srour, an 8-year-old whose face was burned beyond recognition after an Israeli missile struck the family's car Sunday. His mother, Nouhad, lurched toward his hospital bed, her eyes welling with tears.

"Is he coming?" he asked her.

"Don't worry about your father," she said, her words broken by sobs.

Barely conscious, bewildered, he lay with his eyes almost swollen shut. His head lolled toward her. A whisper followed.

"Don't cry, mother," he told her.

Mahmoud's father, Mohammed, was dead. An Israeli missile had struck their green Mercedes as they fled the southern town of Mansuri, where the family had been vacationing. The boy's uncle, Darwish Mudaihli, was dead, too. The bodies were left in the burning car. Mahmoud's sister Mariam, 8 months old, lay next to him, staring at the ceiling with a Donald Duck pacifier in her mouth. Her eyes were open but lifeless, a stare that suggested having seen too much. Her hair was singed, her face slightly burned. Blisters swelled the tiny fingers on her left hand to twice their size.

In other beds of Najm Hospital were their other brothers, 13-year-old Ali and 15-year-old Ahmed.

"What happened?" Ahmed shouted to no one in particular.

It was a question asked often Sunday in Tyre and its hinterland, a bloody day for civilians, even by the standards of this war. Israeli forces repeatedly struck cars on southern Lebanon's already perilous roads in attacks that victims said were indiscriminate. Seven people were killed, three of them when an Israeli helicopter fired a missile at a white minibus carrying 19 people fleeing the village of Tairi, which Israeli forces had ordered residents to evacuate. The missile tore through the roof of the vehicle as it sped around a bend in the road.

Layal Najib, a 23-year-old photographer for the Lebanese magazine al-Jaras, was killed when Israeli forces struck near her taxi outside the town of Qana to the northwest. She was the first journalist killed in the 12-day conflict.

"Are there any armed men here? Is there any resistance here?" asked Ali Najm, a physician helping to treat the injured in Tyre.

He surveyed the wounded, struggling to maintain the detachment of a medical professional and suppress the anger of a neighbor watching a war that he said he did not understand. "There is no aim to this," he said. "They are innocent people. They are carrying white flags, and they're trying to escape."
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Re: Israel set war plan more than a year ago
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Israel set war plan more than a year ago
Strategy was put in motion as Hezbollah began gaining military strength in Lebanon
Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service
Friday, July 21, 2006

Israel's military response by air, land and sea to what it considered a provocation last week by Hezbollah militants is unfolding according to a plan finalized more than a year ago.

In the six years since Israel ended its military occupation of southern Lebanon, it watched warily as Hezbollah built up its military presence in the region. When Hezbollah militants kidnapped two Israeli soldiers last week, the Israeli military was ready to react almost instantly.

"Of all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared," said Gerald Steinberg, professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University. "In a sense, the preparation began in May 2000, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal, when it became clear the international community was not going to prevent Hezbollah from stockpiling missiles and attacking Israel. By 2004, the military campaign scheduled to last about three weeks that we're seeing now had already been blocked out and, in the last year or two, it's been simulated and rehearsed across the board."

More than a year ago, a senior Israeli army officer began giving PowerPoint presentations, on an off-the-record basis, to U.S. and other diplomats, journalists and think tanks, setting out the plan for the current operation in revealing detail. Under the ground rules of the briefings, the officer could not be identified.

In his talks, the officer described a three-week campaign: The first week concentrated on destroying Hezbollah's heavier long-range missiles, bombing its command-and-control centers, and disrupting transportation and communication arteries. In the second week, the focus shifted to attacks on individual sites of rocket launchers or weapons stores. In the third week, ground forces in large numbers would be introduced, but only in order to knock out targets discovered during reconnaissance missions as the campaign unfolded. There was no plan, according to this scenario, to reoccupy southern Lebanon on a long-term basis.

Israeli officials say their pinpoint commando raids should not be confused with a ground invasion. Nor, they say, do they herald another occupation of southern Lebanon, which Israel maintained from 1982 to 2000 -- in order, it said, to thwart Hezbollah attacks on Israel. Planners anticipated the likelihood of civilian deaths on both sides. Israel says Hezbollah intentionally bases some of its operations in residential areas. And Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has bragged publicly that the group's arsenal included rockets capable of bombing Haifa, as occurred last week.

Like all plans, the one now unfolding also has been shaped by changing circumstances, said Eran Lerman, a former colonel in Israeli military intelligence who is now director of the Jerusalem office of the American Jewish Committee.

"There are two radical views of how to deal with this challenge, a serious professional debate within the military community over which way to go," said Lerman. "One is the air power school of thought, the other is the land-borne option. They create different dynamics and different timetables. The crucial factor is that the air force concept is very methodical and almost by definition is slower to get results. A ground invasion that sweeps Hezbollah in front of you is quicker, but at a much higher cost in human life and requiring the creation of a presence on the ground."

The advance scenario is now in its second week, and its success or failure is still unfolding. Whether Israel's aerial strikes will be enough to achieve the threefold aim of the campaign -- to remove the Hezbollah military threat; to evict Hezbollah from the border area, allowing the deployment of Lebanese government troops; and to ensure the safe return of the two Israeli soldiers abducted last week -- remains an open question. Israelis are opposed to the thought of reoccupying Lebanon.

"I have the feeling that the end is not clear here. I have no idea how this movie is going to end," said Daniel Ben-Simon, a military analyst for the daily Haaretz newspaper.

Thursday's clashes in southern Lebanon occurred near an outpost abandoned more than six years ago by the retreating Israeli army. The place was identified using satellite photographs of a Hezbollah bunker, but only from the ground was Israel able to discover that it served as the entrance to a previously unknown underground network of caves and bunkers stuffed with missiles aimed at northern Israel, said Israeli army spokesman Miri Regev.

"We knew about the network, but it was fully revealed (Wednesday) by the ground operation of our forces," said Regev. "This is one of the purposes of the pinpoint ground operations -- to locate and try to destroy the terrorist infrastructure from where they can fire at Israeli citizens."

Israeli military officials say as much as 50 percent of Hezbollah's missile capability has been destroyed, mainly by aerial attacks on targets identified from intelligence reports. But missiles continue to be fired at towns and cities across northern Israel.

"We were not surprised that the firing has continued," said Tzachi Hanegbi, chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. "Hezbollah separated its leadership command-and-control system from its field organization. It created a network of tiny cells in each village that had no operational mission except to wait for the moment when they should activate the Katyusha rocket launchers hidden in local houses, using coordinates programmed long ago to hit Nahariya or Kiryat Shemona, or the kibbutzim and villages."

"From the start of this operation, we have also been active on the ground across the width of Lebanon," said Brig. Gen. Ron Friedman, head of Northern Command headquarters. "These missions are designed to support our current actions. Unfortunately, one of the many missions which we have carried out in recent days met with slightly fiercer resistance."

Israel didn't need sophisticated intelligence to discover the huge buildup of Iranian weapons supplies to Hezbollah by way of Syria, because Hezbollah's patrons boasted about it openly in the pages of the Arabic press. As recently as June 16, less than four weeks before the Hezbollah border raid that sparked the current crisis, the Syrian defense minister publicly announced the extension of existing agreements allowing the passage of trucks shipping Iranian weapons into Lebanon.

But to destroy them, Israel needed to map the location of each missile.

"We need a lot of patience," said Hanegbi. "The (Israeli Defense Forces) action at the moment is incapable of finding the very last Katyusha, or the last rocket launcher primed for use hidden inside a house in some village."

Moshe Marzuk, a former head of the Lebanon desk for Israeli Military Intelligence who now is a researcher at the Institute for Counter-Terrorism in Herzliya, said Israel had learned from past conflicts in Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza -- as well as the recent U.S. experiences in Afghanistan and Iraq -- that a traditional military campaign would be counter-effective.

"A big invasion is not suitable here," said Marzuk. "We are not fighting an army, but guerrillas. It would be a mistake to enter and expose ourselves to fighters who will hide, fire off a missile and run away. If we are to be on the ground at all, we need to use commandos and special forces."



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Since fighting started
-- Israeli air strikes on Lebanon have hit more than 1,255 targets, including 200 rocket-launching sites.

-- Hezbollah launched more than 900 rockets and missiles into northern Israel.

-- At least 330 Lebanese have been killed, including 20 soldiers and three Hezbollah guerrillas. Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora says 1,100 have been wounded; the police put the number at 657.

-- 32 Israelis have been killed, among them 17 soldiers, according to Israeli authorities. At least 12 soldiers and 344 civilians have been wounded.

-- Foreign deaths include eight Canadians, two Kuwaiti nationals, one Iraqi, one Sri Lankan and one Jordanian.


What is your point in posting this. Are you keeping a scorecard? Do you think this is a game the Hez'es against the Jews?
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