@Advocate,
What with all of the emotionalism and hysteria, you yourself could have written this crap, Advi.
Quote:They warned us. The geniuses at Peace Now warned us. The brilliant diplomats warned us. The think tanks warned us. Even the Arab dictators warned us. For decades now, they have been warning us that if you want "peace in the Middle East," just fix the Palestinian problem. A recent variation on this theme has been: Just get the Jews to stop building apartments in East Jerusalem and Efrat. Yes, if all those Jews in the West Bank and East Jerusalem would only "freeze" their construction, then, finally, Palestinian leaders might come to the table and peace might break out.
Well no, it isn't about "freezing" construction of apartment buildings, it's about ending Israel's discrimination against and oppression of the Palestinian peoples. Peace will break out only after Israel ceases and desists in doing this.
Quote:And what would happen if peace would break out between Jews and Palestinians? Would all those furious Arabs now demonstrating on streets across the Middle East feel any better?
What bloody nonsense.
Indeed what bloody nonsense to tie the Arabs demonstrating in the streets across the Middle East with the Israel/Palestine conflict. They're demonstrating in the name of their own economic and political ends, Israel’s and its supporter’s paranoia notwithstanding.
Quote:Has there ever been a greater abuse of the English language in international diplomacy than calling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the "Middle East peace process?" As if there were only two countries in the Middle East.
Who refers to this conflict as the "Middle East peace process"? Aside from Israel, which is the other of the "two countries" that he's referring to? Forget language abuse; Suissa is a very confused individual.
Quote:Even if you absolutely believe in the imperative of creating a Palestinian state, you can't tell me that the single-minded and global obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at the expense of the enormous ills in the rest of the Middle East hasn't been idiotic, if not criminally negligent.
Israel's criminal discrimination against and oppression of the Palestinian peoples is the crux of the enormous ills in the Middle East. It's what threatens a region wide war. It should be dealt with accordingly.
Quote:While tens of millions of Arabs have been suffering for decades from brutal oppression, while gays have been tortured and writers jailed and women humiliated and dissidents killed, the world—yes, the world—has obsessed with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The world--yes, the WORLD--supports brutally oppressive regimes that toe the line of its own ends such as those formerly in Iraq, and presently in Egypt and of course Israel. See response #4 above and #6 below as to the world's--yes the WORLD'S--obsession with the Israel/Palestine conflict.
Quote:As if Palestinians—the same coddled victims on whom the world has spent billions and who have rejected one peace offer after another—were the only victims in the Middle East.
Surely, the Palestinians are not the only victims. Their plight in the hands of the state of Israel does take the spotlight especially in light of the fact that Israel's brand of discrimination and oppression, one based on ethnocentric nationalist ideology, was brought from Europe into the Middle East and imposed on the Palestinians by a people--the Zionists--who, ironically, suffered discrimination and oppression through this very ideology. These people are rightly seen as hypocritical interlopers.
Quote:As if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has anything to do with the 1,000-year-old bloody conflict between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, or the desire of brutal Arab dictators to stay in power, or the desire of Islamist radicals to bring back the Caliphate, or the economic despair of millions, or simply the absence of free speech or basic human rights throughout the Arab world.
The only one stating that the Israel/Palestine conflict has anything to do with the above is Suissa himself for his straw man argument.
Quote:While self-righteous Israel bashers have scrutinized every flaw in Israel's democracy—some waxing hysterical that the Jewish democratic experiment in the world's nastiest neighborhood had turned into an embarrassment—they kept their big mouths shut about the oppression of millions of Arabs throughout the Middle East.
The oppression of millions of Arabs throughout the Middle East is not the crux of the enormous ills in the Middle East. See responses #4 and #6.
Quote:They cried foul if Israeli Arabs—who have infinitely more rights and freedoms than any Arabs in the Middle East—had their rights compromised in any way. But if a poet were jailed in Jordan or a gay man were tortured in Egypt or a woman were stoned in Syria, all we heard was screaming silence.
These are all red herrings. Jailed poets in Jordan, a gay man tortured in Egypt and a woman stoned in Syria don't portend a region wide war. Israel's discrimination of and oppression against the Palestinian peoples does.
Quote:Think of the ridiculous amount of media ink and diplomatic attention that has been poured onto the Israel-Palestinian conflict over the years, while much of the Arab world was suffering and smoldering, and tell me this is not criminal negligence.
Suissa considers the amount of ink used or not used in reporting the Israel/Palestine conflict and Arab suffering as something that is criminally negligent? What cynicism! What is criminal
intention is Israel's discrimination and oppression of the Palestinian peoples in the name of an ethnocentric state, and its support by people like Suissa who contribute to the Zionist cause.
Quote:Do you ever recall seeing a UN resolution or an international conference in support of Middle Eastern Arabs not named Palestinians?
The ones regarding Iraq come to mind.
Quote:Of course, now that the Arab volcano has finally erupted, all those chronic Israel bashers have suddenly discovered a new cause: Freedom for the poor oppressed Arabs of the Middle East!
So, support for the oppressed peoples in the Middle East is a bad thing? Or is that only in regard to support of the Palestinians?
Quote:Imagine if, instead of putting Israel under their critical and hypocritical microscope, the world's Israel bashers had taken Israel's imperfect democratic experiment and said to the Arab world: Why don't you try to emulate the Jews?
And institutionalize a kinder, gentler discrimination and oppression based on ethnocentric bigotry?
What would be better is the institutionalization of an egalitarian and pluralistic democracy for all of the peoples in Israel/Palestine that guarantees their rights and does away with the despicable ideas of exclusivity of the Zionists: "this land is for the Jews".
Quote:Why don't you give equal rights to your women and gays, just like Israel does?
Why don't you, Israel, give equal rights to the Palestinians?
Quote:Why don't you give your people the same freedom of speech and freedom to vote that Israel does? And offer them the economic opportunities they would get in Israel? Why don't you treat your Jewish and Christian citizens the same way Israel treats its Arab and Christian citizens?
Why don't you, Israel, truly give your Palestinian citizens equal treatment and not systematically discriminate against them as was revealed by your Or Commission in 2000? Why don't you, Israel, own your obligation through UN resolutions 194 and 237 to grant the Palestinians that you oppress their Right of Return?
Quote:Why don't you study how Israel has struggled to balance religion with democracy—a very difficult but not insurmountable task?
Why don't you, Israel, study how to separate church and state as it is done in the United States of America?
Quote:Why don't you teach your people that Jews are not the sons of dogs but a noble, ancient people with a 3,000-year connection to the land of Israel?
Why don't you, Israel, acknowledge that the Palestinians by and large share that heritage with Jews?
Quote:Yes, imagine if Israel bashers had spent a fraction of their energy fighting the lies of Arab dictators and defending the rights of millions of oppressed Arabs. Imagine if President Obama had taken one percent of the time he has harped on Jewish settlements to defend the democratic rights of Egyptian Arabs—which he is suddenly doing now that the volcano has erupted.
(Imagining. . .)
There would still be the Israel/Palestine conflict at the core of the ills in the Middle East.
Quote:Maybe it's just easier to beat up on a free and open society like Israel.
Well, it isn't very difficult to point out Israel's ethnocentric discrimination against and oppression of the Palestinian peoples, and "beat up" on it thereof.
Quote:Well, now that the cesspool of human oppression in the Arab world has been opened for all to see, how bad is Israel's democracy looking?
Israel's "democracy" looks like the sham it has always been, the cesspool of human oppression in the Arab world having been opened for all to see notwithstanding.
Quote:Don't you wish the Arab world had a modicum of Israel's civil society?
I would that Israel had a modicum of the USA's civil society.
Quote:Would you still be worrying about "stability in the Middle East?"
Of course, the Israel/Palestine conflict would still be the crux of instability in the Middle East.
Quote:You can preach to me all you want about the great Jewish tradition of self-criticism—which I believe in—but right now, when I see poor Arab souls being murdered for the simple act of protesting on the street, I've never felt more proud of being a supporter of the Jewish state.
This, of course, is merely a red herring that Suissa drags across the pertinent issue: Israel's repression of the Palestinian peoples and the instability that this has caused in the region.
Suissa is a proud supporter of Israel's discrimination and oppression.