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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2010 08:17 am
Hamas is truly ghoulish, and successful, in poisoning the minds of its youth.

Hamas kiddie TV's 'blood-drinking Jews'
By ANDY SOLTIS

Last Updated: 6:16 AM, January 13, 2010



Hamas' terrorist TV channel -- which routinely indoctrinates kids by portraying Israelis as ghouls -- is launching a new cartoon series that depicts another enemy, the Palestinian Authority police.<p>
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A pilot episode shows a toadyish Palestinian officer watching as a Jewish character machine-guns a group of West Bank children to death and drinks their blood.<p>
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"You killed our children before my eyes," the officer says meekly. "I will respond with even more peace."<p>
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The grotesque six-minute pilot was a big hit when tested on Gaza Strip viewers this month by Hamas' video mouthpiece, Al Aqsa TV, and will be expanded next month, officials in Gaza City said.<p>
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Al Aqsa TV is notorious for propaganda-filled kids' shows, such as a 2007 broadcast that showed Farfur, a Mickey Mouse-like character, vowing, "We will annihilate the Jews! I will commit martyrdom!"<p>
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In the final episode, an actor playing an Israeli agent tried to buy Farfur's land, and, when the mouse refused "to sell our lands to terrorists," he was beaten to death.<p>
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But the new Hamas series expands the hate-filled message by making monsters out of both the Israelis and the Palestinian security force, even though they have often clashed violently in the West Bank.<p>
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The pilot cartoon, called "A Special Mission," is built around Bahlul, a boot-licking police officer in the US-backed Palestinian Authority.<p>
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Hamas launched a civil war in 2007 against the authority's forces that ended with the terrorist group establishing iron control over Gaza and the authority retaining power in the West Bank.<p>
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Bahlul, whose name means "buffoon" in Arabic, obligingly kisses the feet and shines the shoes of an Israeli soldier, drawn with an enormous nose and pointed ears like a devil's.<p>
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He vows to "protect the [Jewish] settlements in the West Bank" and says he would shoot his brother, divorce his wife and arrest his relatives if the Israelis ordered him to do so.<p>

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RSS Hamas' terrorist TV channel -- which routinely indoctrinates kids by portraying Israelis as ghouls -- is launching a new cartoon series that depicts another enemy, the Palestinian Authority police.

A pilot episode shows a toadyish Palestinian officer watching as a Jewish character machine-guns a group of West Bank children to death and drinks their blood.

"You killed our children before my eyes," the officer says meekly. "I will respond with even more peace."

The grotesque six-minute pilot was a big hit when tested on Gaza Strip viewers this month by Hamas' video mouthpiece, Al Aqsa TV, and will be expanded next month, officials in Gaza City said.


POISONING MINDS: A new Gaza TV cartoon features a giant-nosed Jewish villain slaughtering kids as a Palestinian Authority cop does nothing.
Al Aqsa TV is notorious for propaganda-filled kids' shows, such as a 2007 broadcast that showed Farfur, a Mickey Mouse-like character, vowing, "We will annihilate the Jews! I will commit martyrdom!"

In the final episode, an actor playing an Israeli agent tried to buy Farfur's land, and, when the mouse refused "to sell our lands to terrorists," he was beaten to death.

But the new Hamas series expands the hate-filled message by making monsters out of both the Israelis and the Palestinian security force, even though they have often clashed violently in the West Bank.

The pilot cartoon, called "A Special Mission," is built around Bahlul, a boot-licking police officer in the US-backed Palestinian Authority.

Hamas launched a civil war in 2007 against the authority's forces that ended with the terrorist group establishing iron control over Gaza and the authority retaining power in the West Bank.

Bahlul, whose name means "buffoon" in Arabic, obligingly kisses the feet and shines the shoes of an Israeli soldier, drawn with an enormous nose and pointed ears like a devil's.

He vows to "protect the [Jewish] settlements in the West Bank" and says he would shoot his brother, divorce his wife and arrest his relatives if the Israelis ordered him to do so.

In Gaza, this is ratings gold.

"We received hundreds of letters from inside and outside [Gaza] asking for the program to be shown again," a network official told Agence France-Presse. With Post Wire Services

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ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jan, 2010 12:51 pm
AGAIN
The Israelis have a government consisting of both Arabs and Jews. The best thing the Israelis could do to bring a modicum of peace to Palestine is to expand Israel to include all of Palestine and all the non-extremist Arabs within it.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 09:35 am
Here is a Gaza childrens' TV program promoting martyrdom to young children. Is this sick or not?

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100125100652zzzz.nb/topstory.html
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jan, 2010 08:03 pm
@Advocate,
Promoting martyrdom to young children is sick! ... No, it's worse than sick. It is evil.promoting martyrdom to young children.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 03:31 am
Has anyone read "The Invention of the Jewish People" by Schlomo Sand?

Amazing read.

Among the main points discussed:

The ancestors of many Israeli jews were not jewish at all.

The biblical description of the history of the jews in Egypt, and what followed after, was a fabrication. (No Moses, no Red Sea crossing, no forty years in the wilderness, no gift of the land by God).

The ancestry of many of the Palestinian people was originally jewish, but they changed religion to escape Roman taxation.

That would put a different complexion on many things.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jan, 2010 03:43 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
... That would put a different complexion on many things.

Yes all that would put a different complexion on many things, if it were all actually true.

It is an uncontested fact that the Arabs invaded and conquered Palestine for the first time in the 7th century AD. It is also an uncontested fact that the Arabs in Palestine were conquered by Europeans in the 11th century AD. It is also an uncontested fact that since then the Arabs in Palestine never reconquered Palestine.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 11:39 am
Curious Defenses of the Goldstone Report

Goldstone even refused to watch videos of Hamas shooting missiles from the midst of civilians.

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/03/curious-defenses-of-goldstone-report/
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 12:52 pm
@McTag,
Does he back up these claims with verifiable,independent evidence?
Has that evidence been factually confirmed?
Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 01:49 pm
@McTag,
Can you please define Jewish, since Jewish is a modern term, I thought, to denote those that identify with the Jewish people and subscribe to a religion that evolved with the Hebrews. Do you think the Nazis would have accepted the thinking that Jews today may not truly be Jews historically. I believe not; that is why Israel exists as a Zionist State. Simply put, Europe did not care for the presence of anyone that could be thought to relate in any way with those ancient Hebrews. So, it might just be irrelevant that Jews are sort of goyish, as well as Jewish! You might also find the theory interesting that the Khazars mixed with the Jews of Eastern Europe in the Middle Ages. Somehow the Nazis paid that theory no mind either.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 01:55 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

Does he back up these claims with verifiable,independent evidence?
Has that evidence been factually confirmed?


What is an "independent evidence" in a historical theory? And how would you back such?
But "yes", he has sourced his book, like any academic does.

Actually, what Sand writes, has been claimed be other historians before (notably in the 19th and early 20th century).
His book/theory mainly deals with the question of where the Jews come from.

His critics say - and I do understand this - that usually professional historians don't deal with periods that they had never researched before; additionally, Sand seems to be relying on studies that present "unorthodox" views of the origins of the Jews. (His theory about why Yiddish is/was spoken in Eastern Europe is one, I really don't follow at all - and I'm sure, I've done as much research about this special subject [Jews in Medieval Germany and their language etc] as he did.)

I suppose, he won only academic laurels for his previous works about the intellectual history of modern France and wanted some more attraction ...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 01:58 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Can you please define Jewish, sinYou might also find the theory interesting that the Khazars mixed with the Jews of Eastern Europe in the Middle Ages.


Exactly that's what Sand writes: the Jews of Eastern Europe are a mixture of Khazars and Slavs who were pushed eastward.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 02:13 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Petachiah of Regensburg writes some interesting observations about the "Jewish" traditions of the Khazars in the early 13th century: Travels of Rabbi Petachia of Ratisbon, by Pethathiah of Regensburg
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 6 Feb, 2010 02:33 pm
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 7 Feb, 2010 03:57 pm
Jews call themselves Jews. The Jews I know identify with the Hebrews in their own individual ways of currently interpreting the Old Testament of the Bible.

Some of those Jews I know claim both their parents were also Jews, and the parents of both their parents were also Jews, and the parents of both their parents were also Jews, ... and the parents of both their parents were also Jews. Other Jews claim to be converts from something else!

Are any or all PURE Jews? I do not know. What's more I do not care! Also, I not understand why any Jews or anyone else cares. If they claim to be Jews, then as far as I am concerned they are Jews. For their own reasons the Palestinian Jews have adopted the UN's 1947 resolution and decided to establish their own country within Palestine.

Are their any people who are PURE somethings besides being PURE human beings?

In particular, are there any PURE Arabs in Palestine? I don't know and I don't care about that either.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 7 Feb, 2010 04:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Can you please define Jewish, sinYou might also find the theory interesting that the Khazars mixed with the Jews of Eastern Europe in the Middle Ages.


Exactly that's what Sand writes: the Jews of Eastern Europe are a mixture of Khazars and Slavs who were pushed eastward.


In my opinion, the "value" of such discoveries helps to discredit any claim that Jews should have a State of Israel, based on a historical affinity with that land. However, that logic is fallacious, since it is like saying that European Christians should not practice their "adopted" faith, since their ancestors were not in Bethlehem when Jesus was born. Those who choose to practice/subscribe to a particular faith adopt more than the faith's rituals, I believe.

But, if one questions the "story of the Jews," it is interesting as to why the story of other faiths do not get questioned. Perhaps, it is easier to pick on a "minority story"?

Also, one should not forget that a majority of Israel, I believe, are Sephardic Jews of Middle Eastern descent; not Ashkenazim of Europe. The Sephardic Jews of Spain arrived in Spain around 300 BC. Guess who was not considered Spanish during the Inquisition. So, 1800 years in a country, and then told that they are not entitled to residency. I think that is more audacious than the Holocaust.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Feb, 2010 01:09 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

But, if one questions the "story of the Jews," it is interesting as to why the story of other faiths do not get questioned. Perhaps, it is easier to pick on a "minority story"?


As far as I remember the topic of those researches (and notably that of Sand) hasn't been religion/faith.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Mon 8 Feb, 2010 12:40 pm
TO WHOM DOES PALESTINE BELONG?

Here's an abbreviated chronology of the ownership of the land called Palestine (some years are approximate). The Encyclopedia Britannica, “Palestine,” is the source.

2000 BC: First Canaanite Culture.
1400 BC: Eqypt conquers Palestine.
1300 BC: First Israelite Culture.
1100 BC: First Philistine Culture.
1000 BC: Saul King of Palestine except Philistra and Phoenicia.
0721 BC: Israel is conquered.
0333 BC: Alexander the Great conquers Palestine.
0135 BC: Maccabees conquer all Palestine.
0040 BC: Romans conquer Palestine.

0638 AD: Arabs begin conquering Palestine.
1099 AD: Crusaders conquer Palestine.
1187 AD: Saladin conquers Palestine.
1244 AD: Turks conquer Palestine.
1516 AD: Ottomans conquer Palestine.
1831 AD: Egypt conquers Palestine.
1841 AD: Ottomans conquer Palestine.
1918 AD: Ottoman governance of Palestine ends.
1918 AD: British Protectorate of Palestine Begins.

1920: 5 Jews killed, 200 wounded in anti-zionist riots in Palestine.
1921: 46 Jews killed, 146 wounded in anti-zionist riots in Palestine.
1929: 133 Jews killed, 339 wounded; 116 Arabs killed, 232 wounded.
1936-1939: 329 Jews killed, 857 wounded; 3,112 Arabs killed, 1,775 wounded; 135 Brits killed, 386 wounded; 110 Arabs hanged, 5,679 jailed.
1947: UN resolution partitions Palestine into a Jewish State and into an Arab State.
1948: Jews declare independence and establish the State of Israel.
1948: War breaks out between Jews defending Israel and Arabs invading Israel.
1948: State of Israel successfully defends itself and additionally conquers a part of Palestine originally granted by the UN to the Arabs.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 9 Feb, 2010 05:52 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:

Has anyone read "The Invention of the Jewish People" by Schlomo Sand?

Amazing read.

Among the main points discussed:

The ancestors of many Israeli jews were not jewish at all.

The biblical description of the history of the jews in Egypt, and what followed after, was a fabrication. (No Moses, no Red Sea crossing, no forty years in the wilderness, no gift of the land by God).

The ancestry of many of the Palestinian people was originally jewish, but they changed religion to escape Roman taxation.

That would put a different complexion on many things.


So, if I should not feel authentically Jewish, do you have any suggestions for my self-identity? I do feel American; my Jewishness is just something I always took for granted, since ancestors were not usually considered truly part of whatever country they lived in in Eastern Europe, simply because they were not part of the Christian majority, and subscribed to a religion called Judaism. In my opinion, the "inclusivity" of the U.S. is what makes it so different than Europe, since again in my opinion, there are more than a few in respective European countries that subscribe to the concept of "exclusivity" (aka, "insiders" vs. "outsiders"). I am not sure that Europe en toto can appreciate "inclusivity," the way it functions in the U.S. (aka, no one is an "outsider" in the U.S., if one has U.S. citizenship).

But, thank you for offering a theory that may not have the same "import" in the U.S., as it may in Europe, or elsewhere.

JTT
 
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Reply Tue 9 Feb, 2010 12:20 pm
@Foofie,
Quote:
there are more than a few in respective European countries that subscribe to the concept of "exclusivity" (aka, "insiders" vs. "outsiders"). I am not sure that Europe en toto can appreciate "inclusivity," the way it functions in the U.S. (aka, no one is an "outsider" in the U.S., if one has U.S. citizenship).



Quote:
Active U.S. Hate Groups
The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 926 active hate groups in the United States in 2008. Only organizations and their chapters known to be active during 2008 are included.


These must be the folks that give you those warm feelings of inclusivity.

And these,

http://turnitdown.newcomm.org/
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 9 Feb, 2010 12:24 pm
@Foofie,
Are you one of those "exclusive" citizens who just isn't quite good enough to ever be the president of the "all-inclusive" United States of America, Foofie?
 

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