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ISRAEL - IRAN - SYRIA - HAMAS - HEZBOLLAH - WWWIII?

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 08:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
The arrest of the woman is just one more example that Hamas is imposing, what it believes, strict Islamic rules in Gaza. For example, its religious police has told shopkeepers to avoid posters that include the shape of a woman. Hamas had previous adopted sharia for Gaza.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 10:02 am
@Advocate,
Why would you want to intrude your American values on those living in foreign countries with different cultures? Do you believe everybody wants to live with American religions and values? There are many differences between religious beliefs, and how they practice them. Who are you to impose your ideas into how they wish to live? Are you some kind of control freak?
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 07:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Why would you want to intrude your American values on those living in foreign countries with different cultures? Do you believe everybody wants to live with American religions and values? There are many differences between religious beliefs, and how they practice them. Who are you to impose your ideas into how they wish to live? Are you some kind of control freak?


There are no American religions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 07:12 pm
@Foofie,
Americans believe in many religions including, but not limited to, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, and many others. If you bother to look at any web link and type "American religions," you'll see they are American religions.

If you look at the US State Department stats on the US, you'll find our country has many religions. Mormonism originated in the US, and so has several others like Scientology, Pentecostal, AME, and Baptist.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 07:16 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

There are no American religions.


Well, while it is true that most religion practiced in America was imported from someplace else, the indigenous populations that have been here for a very long time did have their own unique religions, so those I think you could say those are American religions as much as any place on Earth can claim a religion as indigenous. The Mormons also were American born via their prophet, Joseph Smith, and there have been numerous splinter sects from time to time that are found noplace else but here.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jul, 2009 07:17 pm
@Foxfyre,
To piggy-back on Foxie, I'm sure the many American Indian tribes also had their religions.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 08:02 am
This relates to the Hamas-style education. It is of no wonder that Israel is not very enthusiastic about a separate Pal state.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3744402,00.html
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 08:20 am
@cicerone imposter,
It is wonderful that the USA is so tolerant of different religions. Unfortunately, most of the Islamic countries are tolerant of no other religions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 09:54 am
@Advocate,
You are not only ignorant, but you lie from ignorance. I have visited Central Asia last year, and visited five countries where 90% are Muslims, but they live amongst other religions without any problems. Compare that to the US where Christianity makes up over 80% who continue to advocate for "pro-life and no marriage for gays." Bali in Indonesia is Hinduism in the midst of a Muslim majority. There are many examples like this one; you'll remain ignorant for the rest of your life because your brain is in fix-mode.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
That depends on how you define ignorance.
If you mean "lack of knowledge" then you cannot call Advocate a liar, if he doesnt know the facts.

Since I assume its a safe bet that you are ignorant on the intricacies of brain surgery, if you spoke on the subject at all would we be fair in calling you a liar?

If you mean ignorant as in "purposely stupid or mentally lazy", then we can all, even you, claim to be ignorant regarding some things.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:52 am
@mysteryman,
It's because I have engaged Advocate on many issues where common facts have been provided by many are ignored by him, and he lies.

What's your problem? Quit chasing me around a2k if all you can do is ask stupid questions and statements.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
You dont like being held to the same standard you demand of everyone else?
Why is that?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 12:17 pm
@mysteryman,
What standard are you talking about? Please identify each statement I have made, and which ones you determine that doesn't meet "your" standards?

Put up or shut up; but I prefer you just disappear from my posts.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 01:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your reading comprehension is as poor as ever. I said that "most" Islamic countries are intolerant of other religions. Most of them are in the ME, where Jews, Christians, and other minorities are being driven out, or worse. It is absurd to say that the USA is intolerant of other religions. BTW, abortion is still legal in the USA.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 01:03 pm
@Advocate,
I challenge your "most." Please provide credible evidence of such. Also, when you talk about Muslims, they are not restricted to the middle east.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 02:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hamas is comprised of Dangerous Muslims. Dangerous Muslims are those Muslims who believe it is their duty to kill apostates and/or other non-believing Muslims, and/or non-Muslims.

Israel, before again giving up Palestinian lands not granted it by the UN, is demanding that the Non-dangerous Muslims in Palestine arrest those Dangerous Muslims who are murdering or threatening to Murder Israelis. Previous attempts by the Israelis to buy peace in Palestine by giving up such land failed, because the Israelis failed to insist on that condition. The Israelis are not willing to make that mistake again. I pray they are never willing to make that mistake again!
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 02:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There are about 20 Islamic countries in the ME, and just a few in Asia. I guess you are an expert on the Asian ones because you spent at least a couple of days in each.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 03:18 pm
@Advocate,
It's not only the spending of time there, but reading up on their past and recent history, and meeting the people - especially the children who are friendly towards Americans.

The people of Uzbekistan are quite different from many cultures around the world. Our tour director owns a hotel in Bukhara, and rather than cut-throat business styles, they help each other promote their business even those within the same area and business. In that spirit, our tour director took us to his competitor's restaurant/hotel for one of our meals.

Even their national constitution states (from Wiki):
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The Constitution of the Republic of Uzbekistan asserts that "democracy in the Republic of Uzbekistan shall be based upon common human principles, according to which the highest value shall be the human being, his life, freedom, honor, dignity and other inalienable rights."


Uzbeks have a 99% literacy rate for those over 15 years old, and over 50% are considered to be Muslim, and those practicing Islam are increasing.
Most of the holy writings of Islam was written in Bukhara.

Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 07:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You are not only ignorant, but you lie from ignorance. I have visited Central Asia last year, and visited five countries where 90% are Muslims, but they live amongst other religions without any problems. Compare that to the US where Christianity makes up over 80% who continue to advocate for "pro-life and no marriage for gays." Bali in Indonesia is Hinduism in the midst of a Muslim majority. There are many examples like this one; you'll remain ignorant for the rest of your life because your brain is in fix-mode.


"Pro- life and no marriage for gays" might just show that Christianity has its head on right.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jul, 2009 07:19 pm
@Foofie,
But your's isn't. Conservatives believe in "less government intrusion into our lives." Why are they advocating for intrusion into private lives? Why are they advocating for discrimination against our own citizens? Our Declaration of Independence" says "all men are created equal."

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


Gay's pursit of Happiness is being denied for no reason other than homophobia and bigotry.
 

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