@dyslexia,
Your link does not work but you can be forgiven because you are dyslexic. Have you tried brian surgery?
62% of Jews view Obama as inimical to Israel. After Netanyahu gets through with Obama( BO does not know that Netanyahu is not a wimp like Arlen Specter) the number of Jews who view Obama as friendly to Israel will decrease.
Netanyahu's first priority is not a two state solution. It is to stop the Iranian fanatics( who, it must be remebered, held hundreds of innocent Americans hostage during the tenure of the inept Jimmy Carter.
We have very little in common with Iran. The Mullahs who run the country are fanatics. Israel has always been our friend.
Thousands of Americans have gone to live in Israel. Very few have gone to Iran where women are brutalized and mistreated.
Netanyahu will either persuade BO to put immense pressure on Iran(gasoline supplies? )\ to stop the process of building a nuclear device, or the Israelis, who have heard the Iran threat to destroy them, will take out the Iranian nuclear complex as they took out the Iraqi and Syrian Nuclear Buildings.
@ican711nm,
And the reason Netanyahu did that, Ican, is because he knows that the fanatics in Palestine will not agree to accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
This slap in the face to Israel will allow Netanyahu to replicate the bombings of Nuclear sites in the past--first, the destruction of Iraqi Nuclear buildings when Saddam was still in power and second, the obliteration of Syria's North Korean assisted Nuclear plant.
Netanyahu knows that Israel cannot live with a nuclear armed Iran which has PROMISED to destroy Israel. Obama was left toung tied when faced with the determined Netanyahu!
Thgat's one reason Iran has been developing guided missile technology. If Israel bombs Iran nuclear sites--which so far NO ONE has been able to show are anything other than what Iran says they are: nuclear power generation--then Israel will get missiled back. Conventional arms will work just fine. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction, Mideast style. If Netanyahu rattles the saber, he's gonna get a really loud rattle back from the other side.
@MontereyJack,
That's not the only problem Israel has; they must realize that they are surrounded by Arab countries. If Israel thinks they can win a war with their nukes, they haven't studied geography or logistics.
@Walter Hinteler,
Your first link shows how Israelis take over Palestinian lands at will with the Palestinians not having any legal property rights. The pro-Israelis on this thread are blind, deaf and dumb; they can't see the evidence right before their eyes/minds, and they still claim Palestinians have the same equal rights as the Jews.
There's no cure for stupid. If those who continue to support the Israelis had the same thing happen to them in this country, I wonder what they will do? Of coarse, we all know they will not become suicide bombers, because they are "peaceful" and "respectful" of all humans.
@cicerone imposter,
The average Israeli is at least as smart as you are. He or she is well aware that the Pals are unwilling to reach any agreement that would not result in the demise of Israel. The Pals have no maps that even show the existence of Israel. The WB is an unincorporated area, and Jews have the right to settle there on property not owned by any individuals.
Israels are indeed scared about the future. But they cannot be expected to agree to terms that will effectively destroy their country. The Pals want nothing less.
@Advocate,
"The demise of Israel" is only in the minds of extremist Jews and their apologists who fail to understand the real living conditions of the Palestinians.
There are many Jews - even in the leadership of Israel - that believes in a two state solution Israel. Only people like you continue to talk about "the demise of Israel" as if you know what you are talking about (which is non-existent).
Quote:John Lyons, Middle East correspondent | May 18, 2009
Article from: The Australian
ISRAELI Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will walk into his White House summit prepared to commit to a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, says his Defence Minister and confidant.
Speaking as Mr Netanyahu flew from Jerusalem to Washington yesterday, Ehud Barak said: "I believe Netanyahu is ready for a process whose end is two states for two peoples."
He said in an interview on Israel's Channel 2 that he believed a regional peace deal was achievable within three years.
"We need to convince the Americans that we are serious in our intent to reach a regional deal," Mr Barak said.
"The Arabs say 'two states' (and) I don't see why Netanyahu would not say that at the end of an accord, there will be two people living side by side in peace and mutual respect."
I guess miracles can happen and the Arabs will offer Israel fair terms. But don't hold your breath. The deals that will probably be offered will include a right of millions of Pals to return to Israel (although virtually none of them ever lived in Israel). This, of course, would lead to the fairly quick demise of Israel.
Do you think Israel should accept such terms?
@genoves,
genoves wrote:[Netanyahu] knows fanatics in Palestine will not agree to accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
Until the alleged non-fanatics in Palestine begin to police and curtail those fanatics among them, those alleged non-fanatics in Palestine are in effect supporting those fanatics in Palestine.
@Advocate,
It's interesting to note that the Jews did to the Palestinians what they now fear will happen to them. Cultural shifts in societies usually takes a very long time, but what happened in Israel is unique.
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:
genoves wrote:[Netanyahu] knows fanatics in Palestine will not agree to accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
Until the alleged non-fanatics in Palestine begin to police and curtail those fanatics among them, those alleged non-fanatics in Palestine are in effect supporting those fanatics in Palestine.
I think the fanatics are the least of Israel's problems. Apparently with the prospect of a Palestinian state and believing that Obama is with them 100% and against the Israeli Jews, even up to half the Arab Israelis are now rooting against Israel. Obama has already given Israel an ultimatum--help Palestine form their own state or Israel is on its own against Iran. (Like it wasn't anyway--does anybody believe Obama would ever really deal with Iran in any way that Iran disapproved?)
If negotiations ultimately require Israel to take the Palestinians refugees or lose U.S. backing, Israel is done for, and we'll probably be supporting the Palestinians who will likely be far less self sufficient than Israel has been.
@MontereyJack,
You forget that the Israelis have done what others said they could not or should not do.
They took out the Iraqi Nuclear site.
They destroyed the Syrian buildings housing Nuclear processing.
No one know how sophisticated the Israeli anti-missle defense is.
Iran's economy is in a mess. Israel's people are adamant about defense. A hit on Iran will spook an already demoralized people.
The bottom line is that Iran knows that the Israelis may strike at them. They did it before---to Iraq and Syria.
@Walter Hinteler,
Herr Hinteler--Are those EU-funded groups getting most of their money from Germany?
The always illogical Cicerone Imposter writes:
Your first link shows how Israelis take over Palestinian lands at will with the Palestinians not having any legal property rights. The pro-Israelis on this thread are blind, deaf and dumb; they can't see the evidence right before their eyes/minds, and they still claim Palestinians have the same equal rights as the Jews.
What the senile Cicerone Imposter does not understand is that if the Palestinians reject peace by ceding their country to Hamas(Murdering fanatics), the Palestinians have effectively ceded any rights they may have.
The Israelis know that murdering fanatics devoted to the destruction of Israel will, like the Germans in World War II, stop at nothing to try to destroy Israel. Iran has predicted the destruction of Israel.
It is to be expected that morons like Cicerone Imposter are also Anti-Semites.
The moronic Cicerone Imposter complains about the living conditions in Palestine. Those living conditions must be very bad. Is the crowding so bad that the Palestinians must make more space by firing rockets at Israel?
Read it and weep- Obama's foreign policy will be as bad for the USA as his domestic policies!
Note:
Since his first moments in office, President Barack Obama has embarked on a policy course which rejects Bush's belief that the quest for freedom is universal as so much American chauvinism. For Obama, Islamic hostility towards the West is caused by American arrogance, not the absence of freedom. And because American arrogance is the root of the problem, the solution must be American contrition. It is this view that propels Obama from one international apology tour to the next and causes him to air the CIA's laundry in public. As far as he is concerned, the more apologetic he is, the more contrition he expresses for the actions of his predecessors, the greater the pay-off will be.
And yet, as we see from the behavior of Lebanon, Turkey, Syria and Iran over the past week alone, Obama's apologetics are not winning them over, but emboldening them to take more aggressive positions against the West. How can this be explained?
There is an alternative explanation for the behavior of the peoples of the Islamic world that actually can explain events, and has successfully forecast them. It has even engendered policy recommendations that might have mitigated both the popularity of Islamist parties and deterred these parties, once elected from taking provocative steps against Western states and interests. Unfortunately, every time this explanation is raised, Western policy makers head for the hills.
This explanation is really nothing more than an observation. It observes that the populations of Islamic countries and societies support Islamist parties like the AKP and Hizbullah and Hamas because they support what they stand for. This explanation notes that tens and hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, Lebanese, Iranians, Turks, Egyptians and others voluntarily congregate in public venues and swoon when Islamist leaders tell them that Islam will defeat the West and promise the death of America and the death of Israel.
The jihadist message resonates with them. Their hearts and minds have already been won over. Contrary to what Western leaders as distinct as Bush and Obama believe, the hearts and minds of the Islamic world are not presently in play. From Beirut to the Taliban-controlled Northwest Frontier Province in Pakistan, jihadists enjoy public support because the public supports their aim of defeating the West with bullets, with bombs, and with ballots.
It is too early to know how Obama will react when he like Bush is no longer able to deny that his strategy for winning over the hearts and minds of the Islamic world has failed. We don't know if like Bush before him, he will simply ignore reality and pretend that nothing has happened; if he will blame his political opponents or Israel for not joining him in his contrition; or if he will cast about for another central organizing principle that will explain hostile Islamic behavior.
What is clear is that in the absence of Western " and specifically American " willingness to consider the possibility that what is happening in the Islamic world has next to nothing to do with either what the West embodies or what it has done, and everything to do with the resonance of the Islamist message within the Islamic world, events like the expected loss of Lebanon in June will continue to be met with incoherent prattling and confusion.
Like it or not, it appears that the rising forces in the Islamic world perceive themselves as at war with Western civilization. They cannot be convinced to believe otherwise by either elections or apologies. And the current situation, in which only one side is willing to recognize that there is a war going on between two mutually exclusive ways of organizing human societies, will only lead us to more violent and devastating clashes in the future.
JWR contributor Caroline B. Glick is the senior Middle East Fellow at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC and the deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post
