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It was the Israelis who broke the deal that said Palestinians would equally share the operation of running the Israel government.
No, it was the Arabs that broke the deal when they attacked Israel with their declared intention to eliminate Israel, after Israel declared its independence per UN resolution.
Since the beginning of recorded history and well before Moses arrived there were over 700,000 Arabs (they were called Caananites) living in what is now Israel. The Balfour Declaration written up by the Brits gave the Jews the land they call Israel in 1947. Originally they were to be sent to Uganda.
Arabs are people that came from Arabia to conquer Palestine in 638 AD. Caananites, Persians and others were likewise conquered by Arabs in the same century. The UN and not the Brits in the 1947 UN resolution partitioned Palestine into Jewish and Arab states.
How would you like a bunch of refugees to come to your country and begin killing you, bulldozing your homes, committing acts of terrorism daily, stealing water, restricting access to homes and jobs, even though the land had been yours well before they came? Hell yes I have sympathy for the Palestinians.
It was the other way around. In 638 AD and in 1948 AD, the Arabs came to Palestine and began killing some of its residents there.
It is your Zionist media in the U.S. that tells you otherwise, but the rest of the world has Israel pegged.
The following is excerpted from a different source than the "Zionist media."
Britannica wrote:
2000 BC: First Canaanite Culture.
1400 BC: Eqypt conquers Palestine
1300 BC: First Israelite Culture.
1100 BC: First Philistine Culture (Philistra, evolved to the name Palestine).
1000 BC: Saul King of Israel (all Palestine except
................Philistra and Phoenicia).
0950 BC: Solomon King of Israel.
0721 BC: Israel conquered, but Judaea Continues.
0516 BC: 2nd Temple in Judaea.
0333 BC:The Greek, Alexander the Great Conquers
................Palestine.
0161 BC: Maccabaen Maximum Expansion of Judaea to
................conquer All Palestine Plus.
0135 BC: Maccabaen Maximum Expansion Ends.
0040 BC:The Roman, Herod Conquers Palestine.
0073 AD: Jerusalem conquered and all resistance ceases.
0638 AD: Arabs conquer Jerusalem.
1099 AD: Crusaders conquer Palestine.
1187 AD: Saladin conquers Palestine.
1229 AD: Saladin/Crusader Treaty.
1244 AD: Turks conquer Palestine.
1516 AD: Ottoman Empire Begins Governing Palestine.
1831 AD: Egypt Conquers Palestine.
1841 AD: Ottoman Empire Again Conquers Palestine.
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1918 AD: Ottoman Empire Ends Control of Palestine.
................British Protectorate of Palestine Begins.
1920 AD: 5 Jews killed 200 wounded in anti-zionist riots
................in Palestine.
1921 AD: 46 Jews killed 146 wounded in anti-zionist riots
................in Palestine.
1929 AD: 133 Jews killed 339 wounded
................116 Arabs killed 232 wounded.
1936 thru 39 AD: 329 Jews killed 857 wounded
.........................3,112 Arabs killed 1,775 wounded
............................135 Brits killed 386 wounded.
............................110 Arabs hanged 5,679 jailed.
1947 AD: UN resolution partitions Palestine into a Jewish
................State and into an Arab State.
1948 AD: Jews declare independence and establish the
................State of Israel.
................War breaks out between Jews defending Israel
................and Arabs attempting to invade Israel.
................State of Israel successfully defends itself and
................conquers part of Arab Palestine.
Most Europeans side with the Palestinians. Europeans are much more knowledgeable about what is going on in the Middle East because many take their vacations in Tunisia, Luxor, Sinai, Israel, Jordan, Syria and Turkey, Lebanon, etc.
Most Europeans have never been polled about who they side with.
You know that for a fact, do you? And you're from where? Texas?
If you REALLY wanted to know what's going on, you'd read us.altermedia.info but that might upset your fairytale story that the liars in Washington promulgate.
Your referenced web site's opinion is just that, an opinion of uncertain credibility.
Now you're an expert on sources? My opinion is based on fact. If you bothered to look up the website provided you'd know it was based on facts.
wikipedia:
1947 UN Partition Plan
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On 29 November 1947 the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine or United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, a plan to resolve the Arab-Israeli conflict in the British Mandate of Palestine, was approved by the United Nations General Assembly, at the UN World Headquarters in New York. The plan would have partitioned the territory of Western Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area, encompassing Bethlehem, coming under international control. The failure of the British government and the United Nations to implement this plan, prior agreement between the Jewish Agency and King Abdullah to divide Palestine between them,[1] and rejection of the plan by the Arabs resulted in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
Creation of the plan
After the First World War and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Palestine was placed under British mandate by the Allied Supreme Council, which met at the San Remo Conference in April 1920.
The Balfour Declaration and increased anti-Semitism in Europe, which had been on the rise since the late 19th century, led to a greater Jewish influx following the war. In July 1920, the French drove Faisal bin Husayn from Damascus ending his control over Transjordan. The local sheikhs, who had earlier pledged their loyalty to Faisal's father Hussein bin Ali, the Sharif of Mecca, asked the British to undertake the region's administration. The High Commissioner of Palestine, Herbert Samuel, asked for the extension of the Palestine government's authority to Transjordan, but at meetings in Cairo and Jerusalem between Winston Churchill and Emir Abdullah in March 1921 it was agreed that Abdullah would administer the territory (initially for six months only) on behalf of the Palestine administration. In the summer of 1921 Transjordan was included within the Mandate, but excluded from the provisions for a Jewish National Home.[2] On 24 July, 1922 the League of Nations approved the terms of the British Mandate over Palestine and Transjordan. On 16 September the League formally approved a memorandum from
Lord Balfour confirming the exemption of Transjordan from the clauses of the mandate concerning the creation of a Jewish national home and from the mandate's responsibility to facilitate Jewish immigration and land settlement.[3]The British proposed a division Palestine between a Jewish and an Arab State, but in time changed their opinion (see: 1939 White Paper) and sought to prevent illegal Jewish immigration from Europe. This was seen as betrayal of the terms of the mandate and was met with a popular uprising and guerrilla war from Jewish militant groups that finally forced the British to leave Palestine and hand the problem over to the United Nations.
The United Nations, the successor to the League of Nations, attempted to solve the dispute between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine. On May 15, 1947 the UN appointed a committee, the UNSCOP, composed of representatives from eleven states. To make the committee more neutral, none of the Great Powers were represented. After spending three months conducting hearings and general survey of the situation in Palestine, UNSCOP officially released its report on August 31. A majority of nations (Canada, Czechoslovakia, Guatemala, Netherlands, Peru, Sweden, Uruguay) recommended the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem to be placed under international administration. A minority (India, Iran, Yugoslavia) supported the creation of a single federal state containing both Jewish and Arab constituent states. Australia abstained.
On November 29, the UN General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favor of the Partition Plan, while making some adjustments to the boundaries between the two states proposed by it. The division was to take effect on the date of British withdrawal. Both the United States and Soviet Union agreed on the resolution. In addition, pressure was exerted on some small countries by
Zionist sympathizers in the United States.[4]
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So, following your logic, you'd be ok giving Texas back to the Mexicans?
I would consider it awfully generous of the Arabs to 'give' land to people who had not controlled it since Roman times. The Arabs got screwed over and they are pissed off. I don't blame them a bit.
