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Racial Component Is Found in Lethal Breast Cancer

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 08:46 pm
June 7, 2006

Racial Component Is Found in Lethal Breast Cancer
By DENISE GRADY

Young black women with breast cancer are more prone than whites or older blacks to develop a type of tumor with genetic traits that make it especially deadly and hard to treat, a study has found.

Among premenopausal black women with breast cancer, 39 percent had the more dangerous kind, called a "basal like" subtype, compared with only 14 percent of older black women and 16 percent of nonblack women of any age. Researchers are not sure why.

The study, being published today in The Journal of the American Medical Association, is the first to measure how common the different genetic subtypes of breast tumors are in American women, and to sort the subtypes by race. The authors said more research was needed to test their conclusions.

The finding has no immediate effect on treatment, because there is no treatment that specifically concentrates on basal-like cancer. But scientists are trying to create drugs that will zero in on it.

The study helps explain something that was already known: although breast cancer is less common in blacks than whites, when black women do develop the disease, they are more likely to die from it, especially if they are under 50. Among those younger women, the breast cancer death rate in blacks is 11 per 100,000, compared with only 6.3 in whites.

The new data about tumor types is not the whole story, researchers say, because some of the disparity may also result from a lack of access to health care among blacks or differences in nutrition, personal habits or environmental exposures.

The genetic discovery is "somewhat alarming," but also a "good thing," because it exposes details about the cancer that should help doctors identify specific drugs to fight it, said the study's main author, Dr. Lisa A. Carey, the medical director of the University of North Carolina-Lineberger breast center.

Several research groups including her own have already begun testing new drugs against this type of breast cancer, Dr. Carey said. The work involves finding drugs to block specific molecules that these tumors need to grow. If the trials succeed, new treatments could be available within a few years, perhaps even as soon as a year from now, she predicted.

These tumors are identified not by looking through a microscope, but by special tests that measure patterns of genetic activity.

"Things that to my eye and a pathologist's eye look similar turn out to be biologically very different," Dr. Carey said, adding that the tests were now strictly a research tool and were not done routinely in women with breast cancer.

Dr. Larry Norton, a breast cancer expert at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York who was not part of the study, said the research was extremely well done and important. He said there was preliminary evidence from other studies that basal-like tumors were the most common kind found in Africa, and that understanding what caused them could help point the way toward better treatments and methods of prevention.

Dr. Olufunmilayo Olopade, director of the center for clinical cancer genetics at the University of Chicago, said she had found high rates of basal-like tumors in young women in Nigeria and Senegal, most of whom died. In many, the disease ran in their families.

The work has not yet been published, but Dr. Olopade said the message to black women, and to women of all races, was that if their mothers, sisters or daughters developed breast cancer at an early age, they needed to start screening for it well before age 40, to seek genetic counseling and to consider preventive drugs and perhaps preventive surgery if they proved to be at high risk.

Basal-like tumors tend to grow fast and spread quickly, and they are more likely than other types to be fatal. They are not fed by the hormone estrogen, and so cannot be treated or prevented with estrogen-blocking drugs like tamoxifen or raloxifene. Herceptin, another breast cancer drug, is also useless against these tumors. The tumors are not stimulated by the hormone progesterone, either. For that reason, cancer specialists call them "triple negative."

Standard chemotherapy does help, and women with basal-like tumors benefit more from it than women with other breast cancers. But even with treatment, those with basal-like tumors are less likely to survive.

Women with mutations in a gene called Brca1 tend to develop this kind of aggressive breast tumor. In the past, researchers thought Brca1 mutations did not occur in black women, but Dr. Olopade dismissed that notion as a myth, saying the mutations were found just as often in black women as in other populations. She and Dr. Carey said other mutations, not yet discovered, might also predispose black women to the basal-like tumors.

Dr. Carey's research was based on stored tissue samples from 496 women who had breast cancer diagnoses from 1993 to 1996 and who were included in a project called the Carolina Breast Cancer Study. Their average age was 50, and 40 percent identified their race as African-American.

The researchers used new techniques of molecular biology to find patterns of gene activity in the cancer cells, to classify the tumors accordingly and then to sort the genetic subtypes by race, menopausal status, other tumor traits and survival.

"The same technology that identified the subtypes also tells us about the biology of the subtypes," Dr. Carey said. "Once you know what makes it tick, you can figure out how to stop the ticking. It's opened up a window on it."

The goal is to find particular molecules in a cell that drive proliferation or tumor survival, and to block them.

"If it looks like a particular cancer cell is dependent on a certain pathway to live or grow, and if you can shut it down preferentially in that cancer cell, you can stop it," Dr. Carey said.

Newer cancer drugs like herceptin and Gleevec, which is used for certain types of leukemia and gastrointestinal tumors, work in this so-called targeted fashion, and so does Tykerb, a new breast cancer drug described last weekend at a meeting of the American Society for Clinical Oncology. For certain cancers, targeted treatments are far more effective than standard chemotherapy, more of a buckshot approach.

Breast cancer experts hope to find better treatments than chemotherapy for many types of the cancer, and Dr. Carey said, "That's the challenge, getting away from chemo for this subtype."

The next step in the research is to look for risk factors for the basal-like subtype, in hopes of finding ways to prevent it, she said.

"There's a lot of smart people working very hard on this," Dr. Carey said. "I'm very optimistic."

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 08:53 pm
I think there may be a few things going on here, from lack of immediate identifying of the problem and followup care, to a possible faster bc type.
And then whatever number folks ascribe to increased obesity, re portion of population.

Research, screening, education.... for all of us.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 08:59 pm
There's a growing body of medical evidence documenting that race plays
a significant role in the type of treatment a patient receives.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:09 pm
Not saying it isnt so, but adding: there could be an intermediary step at play, here. As in: class plays a significant role in the type of treatment a patient receives; and because black people are still more likely than whites to be working- or lower-class and less likely to be middle- and upper-class, that will be reflected in the data by race as well.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:14 pm
nimh wrote:
Not saying it isnt so, but adding: there could be an intermediary step at play, here. As in: class plays a significant role in the type of treatment a patient receives; and because black people are still more likely than whites to be working- or lower-class and less likely to be middle- and upper-class, that will be reflected in the data by race as well.


I agree.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:27 pm
Miller wrote:
There's a growing body of medical evidence documenting that race plays
a significant role in the type of treatment a patient receives.


Bugger.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:41 pm
First of all there is not such thing as a biological race in the human species, race is a social construct only.

Secondly Africa is a continent not a country and a blanket statement about the uniformity of the genetic make up of humans from that continent is not possible. In fact it is the revers. Human populations in Africa exhibit more genetic diversity than any other human population on earth.

It is possible that one of the populations from which some African Americans are descendent may have had a genetic weakness that would express itself as breast cancer. But that genetic propensity would spread though intermarriage and is just as likely to be present in people that are not directly descendent from that African population.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:57 pm
I'd cheerfully say that race is a liquid concept at this point. Still, if data comes to the fore that means it would be smart to do earlier screening re some, then there should be follow up studies re the efficacy of that.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 09:59 pm
Here's the reference in the Journal of the American Medical Association:

Race, Breast Cancer Subtypes, and Survival in the Carolina Breast Cancer Study

Lisa A. Carey, MD; Charles M. Perou, PhD; Chad A. Livasy, MD; Lynn G. Dressler, PhD; David Cowan, BS; Kathleen Conway, PhD; Gamze Karaca, MSc; Melissa A. Troester, PhD; Chiu Kit Tse, MSPH; Sharon Edmiston, BS; Sandra L. Deming, PhD, MPH; Joseph Geradts, MD; Maggie C. U. Cheang, MMedSci; Torsten O. Nielsen, MD; Patricia G. Moorman, PhD; H. Shelton Earp, MD; Robert C. Millikan, DVM, PhD

JAMA. 2006;295:2492-2502.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jun, 2006 10:06 pm
ossobuco wrote:
I'd cheerfully say that race is a liquid concept at this point. Still, if data comes to the fore that means it would be smart to do earlier screening re some, then there should be follow up studies re the efficacy of that.


Early detection may be possible now, using molecualr biology techniques, that have shown genetic differences between black and white women relative to development of this aggressive form of breast cancer.

Similar tests have been elaborated for Ashkenazi Jewish Women, who are most likely to carry the BRCA1 mutations.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/990101ap/99.html
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jun, 2006 12:15 am
Acquiunk wrote:
First of all there is not such thing as a biological race in the human species, race is a social construct only.

Secondly Africa is a continent not a country and a blanket statement about the uniformity of the genetic make up of humans from that continent is not possible. In fact it is the revers. Human populations in Africa exhibit more genetic diversity than any other human population on earth.

It is possible that one of the populations from which some African Americans are descendent may have had a genetic weakness that would express itself as breast cancer. But that genetic propensity would spread though intermarriage and is just as likely to be present in people that are not directly descendent from that African population.


I don't get why pointing out that certain populations are more prone to particular genetically related diseases is a sticking point.

eg Thalassaemia affects more folk who hail from certain Mediterranean regions than it does other folk, and I don't see people getting sniffy about that.


Identifying such populations is not a slur, but ought to be a damn fine prevention and/or early identification tool.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jun, 2006 10:27 am
dlowan wrote:


I don't get why pointing out that certain populations are more prone to particular genetically related diseases is a sticking point.



First of all those populations are not races

Secondly the genetic forms do not stay put. As proof of that I offer you this article from yesterdays (June 6) New York Times.



In the Body of an Accounting Professor, a Little Bit of the Mongol Hordes

Nicolas Wade, June 6, 2006 New York Times

The first American to be able to claim descent from Genghis Khan has been discovered. He is Thomas R. Robinson, an associate professor of accounting at the University of Miami in Coral Gables, Fla.
Dr. Robinson's descent from Genghis Khan emerged in a roundabout way. The Y chromosome of that Mongol emperor was identified in 2003 by geneticists at the University of Oxford in England. Surveying the chromosomes of Asian men, they noticed a distinctive genetic signature in populations from Mongolia to Central Asia. Their common feature was that all but one lay within the borders of the former Mongol empire.
The geneticists concluded that the far-flung Y chromosome must have belonged to Genghis Khan and had become so widespread because of the vigor with which he and his sons labored in their harems, a fact noted by contemporary historians.
While the geneticists were collecting blood samples from the Oxus to Xanadu, Dr. Robinson was researching his family tree and had established that his great-great-grandfather, John Robinson, had emigrated from Cumbria in England to Illinois. Reaching a dead end, in 2003 he submitted a scraping of cells from the inside of his cheek to Oxford Ancestors. The company traces people's ancestry to specific regions of the world based on their Y chromosomes, which track paternal descent, or on their mitochondrial DNA, which is inherited through the female line.
"They told me my mother's side of the family came from France and Spain and my father's side probably originated in Central Europe," Dr. Robinson said in an interview yesterday.
Recently, Bryan Sykes, the geneticist who founded Oxford Ancestors, decided to look through his database of some 50,000 people to see if there were any anomalous matches with Genghis Khan's Y chromosome. "We get people wanting to know if they are related to Genghis Khan and they never are unless they come from China or Mongolia," he said yesterday in an interview from England.
Among his non-Asian customers was one hit: Dr. Robinson. "Someone rang him up and I think it came as a nice surprise," Dr. Sykes said.
Dr. Robinson said he received the call about a month ago. Articles about his surprising ancestry have appeared in The Times of London and The Miami Herald.
How did Genghis Khan's Y chromosome get into a family that has lived for many generations in the Lake District of northern England? Genghis Khan's empire stretched from the Pacific Ocean to the Caspian Sea. One possibility, Dr. Sykes said, was that the Vikings might have transferred slaves from the Caspian region to the Orkney and Shetland Islands. Viking boats reached the Caspian by sailing on the rivers of Russia and being hauled overland.
One of the slaves, or his descendants, might have ended up in Cumbria and assumed the surname Robinson. Surnames were not used in England until around the 13th century, Dr. Sykes said.
Another possibility is that a later Mrs. Robinson had a child out of wedlock by a man from Central Europe. But this would seem less likely if, as Dr. Sykes said may be the case, there are many other Robinsons in the Lake District who carry the conqueror's Y chromosome.
Although Genghis Khan was the most spectacular progenitor, several other prolific patriarchs have since come to light, including Giocangga, the founder of the Manchu dynasty in China, and Niall of the Nine Hostages, an Irish king considered by some historians as more of a legend than real.
"Mini-Genghises were probably all over the place in medieval times," Dr. Sykes said. Under a patriarchal inheritance pattern, he added, "sons will inherit wealth and empire and the same attitude to women." The same instincts have not necessarily vanished from contemporary rulers, despite societal disapproval of straying from the marriage bed.
"I'm sure that's one of the reasons they try to get to the top," Dr. Sykes said, referring to leaders' desire to spread their genes. The constraints on people holding public office "must be very frustrating, but they manage it somehow," he said.
Genghis Khan died in 1227, and in the 30 or so generations since then his genes would have become heavily diluted, halving at each generation. The Y chromosome, however, is passed essentially unchanged from father to son so as to prevent its male-determining gene from being swapped into the X chromosome. Its 78 genes are inherited as a single unit. Mr. Robinson may carry few of Genghis Khan's other genes, but he can now trace his ancestry to the 13th century.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jun, 2006 04:09 pm
Thats all fine and dandy for the conceptual understanding of race and identity, but if studies find that a certain affliction occurs overproportionally in the group commonly identified as blacks or African-Americans, then there you are, and it sure sounds like a worthwhile thing to know and follow up on.

What phrasing would you have proposed using, then, to highlight such a fact\problem? Cause its just the phrasing youre objecting to, then? Cause it sounds like worth knowing\using...
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jun, 2006 05:18 pm
These kinds of conflicts shouldn't impede either biological research or the use of newly discovered techniques to treat seriously ill patients.
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Jack Webb
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jun, 2006 11:54 pm
Black people have different problems with their teeth as well. I used to work at a prison and we had two dentists.

The young dentist handled all the employees as well as prisoners. An older more experienced dentist was required to treat black inmates due to the difference in problems presented by their unique oral physiology. They had special diseases that required a dentist that had completed that branch of study. Not just any dentist was capable of proper treatment.
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 12:56 pm
I recently read an article in a NYTimes paper written by a harvard affliated black dermatologist, who claimed that many black patients have dermatological problems, that remain untreated, simply because white dermatologists don't understand that black
patients may present with skin problems unique to those with elevated levels of skin melanin.

Blacks can get melanoma and yes, blacks should be using a sun screen.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jun, 2006 10:39 am
nimh wrote:
What phrasing would you have proposed using, then, to highlight such a fact\problem? Cause its just the phrasing youre objecting to, then? Cause it sounds like worth knowing\using...


Sorry I'm so long getting back to this

I'm at something of a disadvantage as I have not read the original article. But judging from the newspaper report, the logic seems to be this. One characteristic, the amount of melanin in the skin, and another type of characteristic, a weakness for a certain type of cancer are being linked and are assumed to be characteristic of a biologically distinct human population ie a race. From the presumed existence of that race one can predict the weakness for the type of cancer from the quantity of melanin in the skin. Those biologically distinct populations do not exist, nor can it be demonstrated that the propensity for a certain type of cancer is linked to melanin. Rather it is the inheritance of a group of people who share a common ancestor, which the article suggest may have lived in west Africa. But as the article on the descendent of Genghis Kahn demonstrates genes are very mobil and using the melanin content of an individuals skin to indicate the presents of that weakness is poor medical practice.
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Miller
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jun, 2006 09:43 pm
Quote:
But as the article on the descendent of Genghis Kahn demonstrates genes are very mobil


Do you really think any black woman, or for that matter, any woman anywhere, cares about Genghis Kahn, when she's got breast cancer? Mad
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