oreos illegal?

Part of the problem is the jargon, trans-fat = hydrogenated oil. Yeah, so what? If Jay Leno stopped 100 people on the street, would he find two who would know what those are and what the possible effects of them are in food? Duh.

So where are the people supposed to get this information? They don't get it from the ads they see hundreds of times a day for fast foods(tell them you want to superSIZE it.) for pizza (now get TWO when you order one)
and bringing home dinner in a bag. (Fried Chicken, Boston Market.)
The common sense nutrition public service announcements on Saturday morning TV have disappeared (another gift to the American people from the Reagan years.)
Once a year Time or Newsweek or both do a cover story on the wacked out American nutrition to no effect that I can see on the street. What used to be called Women's Magazines are probably the last strong sources of solid information on diets, not just for weight loss, but for just good eating.
The problem here is that the average American women doesn't read as much as she watches TV. Men's health magazine (great abs, wow what abs, get buff abs!) are more about selling stuff than primers on good cooking.
So yeah, the information is out there. Way out there, and yes on the labels now, (Thanks to the liberals for making the makers tell us what's in there in that sauce.) But the preponderance of the messages we get are in the ads, (HEY! It's fun to eat this! YUM!) Maybe we need to change the labels, like on the Oreos it would say:

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Hey! I said only two! Put that back!!!

Joe

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Part of the problem is that the general public has not had a course in organic chemistry, and doesn't have the slightest idea, nor do they care about, the definitions of cis and trans relative to the positions of H atoms in a molecule of fat.

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TerryDoolittle wrote:

dagmaraka wrote:
On Oreos it was NOT listed> that was the issue.

Trans fat content is not listed on any food label. You have to look for "hydrogenated oils" in the ingredients list. THAT is what the shmuck CLAIMED his point was. He singled out Oreos because they're (I believe, but could be mistaken) the number one selling cookie in the nation.

Anybody notice, that when you buy fresh meat at the market, the wrapper doesn't list ALL of the contents? If the wrapper announced the presence of 3 million cells of E. coli, would the average consumer buy the meat product?

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New Haven- I think that you have hit on a very important fact. Everybody is in a huff about trans fat, which is bad for you, but they forget about other stuff. How many people read labels?

Are you aware of some of the PRESERVATIVES in foods, and that many people are sensitive to them? Ever read the sodium content on a can of Campbell's soup? Ever look to see the composition of the juice "drinks" on the market? Ever check the order of the ingredients in a food? (They are written with the most prevalent ingredient first).

There is no doubt that trans fat is bad for you, but so are many other things that most people don't even think about. Before everybody jumps on trans fat, and demands that it is removed by law, do some studying yourself. There are LOTS of ingredients in LOTS of popular foods that are bad for you. Become an informed shopper. Don't expect the government to do YOUR work. There are ways to avoid food that is bad for you, but you have to take the time and effort to figure it out for yourself.

And tell your kid to put that package of Oreos BACK on the shelf!

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Phoenix32890 wrote:

New Haven- I think that you have hit on a very important fact. Everybody is in a huff about trans fat, which is bad for you, but they forget about other stuff. How many people read labels?

Are you aware of some of the PRESERVATIVES in foods, and that many people are sensitive to them? Ever read the sodium content on a can of Campbell's soup? Ever look to see the composition of the juice "drinks" on the market? Ever check the order of the ingredients in a food? (They are written with the most prevalent ingredient first).

There is no doubt that trans fat is bad for you, but so are many other things that most people don't even think about. Before everybody jumps on trans fat, and demands that it is removed by law, do some studying yourself. There are LOTS of ingredients in LOTS of popular foods that are bad for you. Become an informed shopper. Don't expect the government to do YOUR work. There are ways to avoid food that is bad for you, but you have to take the time and effort to figure it out for yourself.

And tell your kid to put that package of Oreos BACK on the shelf!

Absolutely correct. We have to self-educate ourselves about medicine and nutrition. Razz

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In American law there is an axiom that asserts two wrongs don't make a right. If we are being mislead by the meat industry and by the trans fat industry, well, the meat doesn't cancel out the trans fat. Two seperate issues. I am sure there are people looking to nail the meat problem also. They just aren't in the headlines today. Bottom line, the public has been mislead and need to becalled on it.

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Not to mention that the meat problem, because it's effects are so much more obvious, has been dealt with in the past. The FDA has found 'acceptable' (ick) levels of e coli and a regulatory board has been in effect (rather poorly at times) to keep an eye on it.

Has all that happened for other nasties like trans-fats, hydrogenated oils, etc?

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littlek wrote:

Not to mention that the meat problem, because it's effects are so much more obvious, has been dealt with in the past. The FDA has found 'acceptable' (ick) levels of e coli and a regulatory board has been in effect (rather poorly at times) to keep an eye on it.

Has all that happened for other nasties like trans-fats, hydrogenated oils, etc?

The E.coli can make you feel more uncomfortable, than a little Oreo.

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littlek, the article I quoted a ways back indicates that things are moving on trans fats labeling, just slowly. Hopefully the oreos thing will goose 'em into doing something.

TerryDoo, I think Oreos were chosen for their symbolic value; they are marketed specifically to kids and a lot of people like them a lot.

"Ban trans fats!"
"Yeah, whatever, another hippie do-gooder, who knows what the hell he's talking about."

"Ban Oreos!"
"WHAT?!! Get your grubby mitts OFF my Oreos, man!!!"

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Health food nuts unite. Strike a blow for nutrition.

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Soz--I'm not sure if they still are, but Oreos once were listed as the #1 seller.

BTW, has anyone tried the chocolate creme ones? I don't buy those anymore.

And there's NO WAY you're taking away my Nutella! As it is I limit myself to one jar a year. (It's usually gone in two weeks, but I only buy one a year.)

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Oh, I wouldn't be surprised about the #1 thing.

I know, et tu, Nutella? Ah well. Sad

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Oh, well - Might as well revive the New Coke versus Classic Coke debate. The cookie-ites have dug in their heels, as have the pro lawsuit voices. Not much else to be gained, I would expect.

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I'm sticking to my steak tartare and my homemade shortbread.

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Let the mutations begin. Soon we'll all be fixing CO2 and bathing in the sunlight with our chloroplasts lapping up the sunrays.

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cavfancier wrote:

I'm sticking to my steak tartare and my homemade shortbread.

For lunch or dinner? Can we all come over? Razz

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For desert: Oreos, of course, crumbled over Bluebell Icecream.

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edgar--little k's got the solution to our Oreo dilemma.....OH MY GAWD! She got Oreo knockoffs sans trans fats that taste almost like the real thing, just a bit sweeter.

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I know, TerryD. I was just being a turd for a moment. I sometimes buy the type of cookies Little K spoke of. They are good.

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they were goooooood.....Now why do I suddenly have a craving for Oreos?

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