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And the left got fooled again

 
 
smog
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 02:12 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Unlike many on the left,I dont blame all marines,nor do I believe that what happened is SOP for the military.

Well, I haven't been blaming the soldiers themselves for very much of anything ... But I also wasn't aware that we lefties were supposed to be. Man, I just can't keep up with all the people I'm supposed to be blaming for things these days!

This thread has opened my eyes.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 03:04 pm
Jesse MacBeth is my hero. He has a claim to fame while being totally unknown. I'm thinking if MM continues this sort of publicity, Jesse MacBeth may become the anti-John Wayne of the Iraq invasion. Rave on MM, rave on indeed.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 03:30 pm
Is MM pulling that "left blame all marines" crap over here too?
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 03:35 pm
Sad to say, as soon as it became clear that the USA did really intend to send an invasion force to Iraq, all of this tragic saga became predictable, including the atrocities. And it was predicted.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 03:44 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
To those outside of the US, public access TV is something the US government requires local cable carriers to provide. Basically, any citizen can come up and be put on a list of people to have show shown only in that local cable company's area-usually a few towns in a section of a state. The shows are half an hour, shown once a week, and almost invariably consist of some local person outside of broadcasting interviewing someone in a room the local cable company provides.


Kelticwizard, it is even simpler than you describe. Anyone can submit a tape to be broadcast on public access and as long as the applicant lives in the towns covered by the cable franchise and as long as it is not pornography the cable company is obligated to broadcast it. I have done this on numerous occasions for local museums and historical societies in Connecticut. The tape can be of any length but they give you a hard time if it is over an hour. A weekly half hour show is not a requirement.

This sounds like a not to subtle attempt at disinformation to create a counter issue to the growing massacre scandal in Iraq
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 04:16 pm
Re: And the left got fooled again
kelticwizard wrote:
mysteryman wrote:

Of course,now that this ass has been exposed as a fraud,wanna bet the left will say they never heard of him.

News Flash: Nobody HAS heard of him. Not till one of your favorite sources-WorldNetDaily-brought him up out of obscurity.

Here on A2K, I think we do a pretty good job keeping abreast of things-major news stories don"t escape us.

Well, I did a search for "MacBeth" in the Politics section here. EVERY single reference was to the play, not to this guy you are talking about. I checked "McBeth", just in case of misspellings-zilch. Nobody on this forum was aware of Jesse MacBeth until WorlNetDaily dredged him up.


kelticwizard wrote:
In this case, some private citizen with a public access show showed a video from the internet. The video was on the internet because the filmmaker could not sell the video to any major national or even local news organization.

This video is what WorldNetDaily-and Mysteryman-is trying to pass off as some sort of accepted voice of the left. Hoo boy.


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I never heard of this Jesse MacBeth character until MM brought up this WorldNetDaily article. He's clearly no hero to the Left-in fact nobody heard of him. The Right is struggling to find a story to counterbalance Abu Ghraib and the Marine atrocity, and all they have to go on is some unknown video on the internet which was shown on some local public access cable show.


Nuff said - I think Keltic pretty much wrapped this up.

MM likes to bandy claims about "The Left" around a lot; in his usage, any act by any crank anywhere on the left suddenly somehow becomes something all of us are responsible for or fooled by - even if we'd never even heard of the person in question.

All I'd add is this bit from the story MM posted itself:

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After looking into his recent claims, we have learned that Jesse is not what he represented himself to be. Accordingly, IVAW does not in any way endorse Jesse MacBeth or any of his accounts involving military service. He - and he alone - is responsible for them. IVAW was not aware of the creation of the video program featuring MacBeth, and did not authorize use of our logo in the program."

IVAW member Garett Reppenhagen called MacBeth a "troubled kid."

"I'm not sure why he would want to be fraudulent to IVAW," Reppenhagen said.

Looks like MM's "the Left", in the guise of Iraq Veterans Against the War, was soon wized up to MacBeth's cranks.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 04:28 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
The Right is struggling to find a story to counterbalance Abu Ghraib and the Marine atrocity, and all they have to go on is some unknown video on the internet which was shown on some local public access cable show.

Well, look at what's on top of the page on today's WorldNetDaily news site to get an idea of their sense of proportion...

Of everything that has gone on around the world this weekend, the single most important issue in the eyes of WND was ...

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BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
WorldNetDaily


[size=28]Aztlan group blamed
for newspaper theft [/size]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/breaking.gif

'MEChA' vandals censor campus paper
in retaliation for 'racist,' 'biased' coverage



Yep ... a student group nicked a couple of thousands of copies of a campus newspaper, put them in black garbage bags, and delivered them back to the paper with a note of protest over something childish.

That's the big, shock-headline of this weekend, in the world of WND. You cant blame 'em for not quite getting the proportions right on this one, either...
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 05:45 pm
Whatever else may be said of Jesse Macbeth, he's gained celebrity of a sort: Looks like his 15 Minute Clock has started
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 06:05 pm
His military service has been debunked, the veracity of the Wikipedia report is in dispute, the video about him has been removed from the website it was on and nobody ever heard of the guy anyway. Yeah, Jesse's on his way to fame all right, Timber. Rolling Eyes
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 06:56 pm
bm
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 06:58 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
His military service has been debunked, the veracity of the Wikipedia report is in dispute, the video about him has been removed from the website it was on and nobody ever heard of the guy anyway. Yeah, Jesse's on his way to fame all right, Timber. Rolling Eyes

15 minutes of it, anyway.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 07:01 pm
Timber, you're right after all. But I think we all just used it up on this thread. Very Happy
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2006 07:04 pm
We may only hope so ... doubt we have much reason to expect so.
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