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Fox news does it again:"Could Gore's movie destroy economy?"

 
 
SierraSong
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 09:57 am
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Canada wakes up ...

Hon. Rona Ambrose (Minister of the Environment, CPC): Mr. Speaker, our government is being honest and transparent with Canadians about the mess the Liberals left us when it comes to our Kyoto targets. Today we will release Canada's greenhouse gas inventory and it will show that Canada now is 35% higher than the Kyoto targets that the Liberals set.

To put this into perspective, it would mean that today we would have to take every train, plane and automobile off the streets in Canada. That is not realistic. Is that the kind of solution the hon. member thinks is a good idea?



That's what Kyoto was designed to do. To America. The Canadians were just collateral damage.
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 10:00 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Do you actually know what Gore is advocating?


http://www.guadspot.com/Images/GoreFire.jpg
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 10:17 am
Gore is advocating using his own hot air as an energy source?
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 11:21 am
SierraSong wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
Do you actually know what Gore is advocating?


http://www.guadspot.com/Images/GoreFire.jpg


Now, that is HOT air.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 12:28 pm
Cornel West and "Free-market fundimentalism".

"The problems plaguing our democracy are not only ones of disaffection and disillusionment. The greatest threats come in the form of the rise of three dominating, antidemocratic dogmas. These three dogmas, promoted by the most powerful forces in our world, are rendering American democracy vacuous. The first dogma of free-market fundamentalism posits the unregulated and unfettered market as idol and fetish. This glorification of the market has led to a callous corporate-dominated political economy in which business leaders (their wealth and power) are to be worshipped?-even despite the recent scandals?-and the most powerful corporations are delegated magical powers of salvation rather than relegated to democratic scrutiny concerning both the ethics of their business practices and their treatment of workers. This largely unexamined and unquestioned dogma that supports the policies of both Democrats and Republicans in the United States?-and those of most political parties in other parts of the world?-is a major threat to the quality of democratic life and the well-being of most peoples across the globe. It yields an obscene level of wealth inequality, along with its corollary of intensified class hostility and hatred. It also redefines the terms of what we should be striving for in life, glamorizing materialistic gain, narcissistic pleasure, and the pursuit of narrow individualistic preoccupations?-especially for young people here and abroad.

Free-market fundamentalism?-just as dangerous as the religious fundamentalisms of our day?-trivializes the concern for public interest. The overwhelming power and influence of plutocrats and oligarchs in the economy put fear and insecurity in the hearts of anxiety-ridden workers and render money-driven, poll-obsessed elected officials deferential to corporate goals of profit, often at the cost of the common good. This illicit marriage of corporate and political elites?-so blatant and flagrant in our time?-not only undermines the trust of informed citizens in those who rule over them. It also promotes the pervasive sleepwalking of the populace, who see that the false prophets are handsomely rewarded with money, status, and access to more power. This profit-driven vision is sucking the democratic life out of American society.

In short, the dangerous dogma of free-market fundamentalism turns our attention away from schools to prisons, from workers' conditions to profit margins, from health clinics to high-tech facial surgeries, from civic associations to pornographic Internet sites, and from children's care to strip clubs. The fundamentalism of the market puts a premium on the activities of buying and selling, consuming and taking, promoting and advertising, and devalues community, compassionate charity, and improvement of the general quality of life. How ironic that in America we've moved so quickly from Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Let Freedom Ring!" to "Bling! Bling!"?-as if freedom were reducible to simply having material toys, as dictated by free-market fundamentalism."

Excerpt From the book Democracy matters

http://www.logosjournal.com/west.htm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 12:30 pm
Gore is totally serial about the environment.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2006 11:26 pm
EW review: Gore's brilliant 'Truth'

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Conservatives love to bash the 1960s, but when you think about it, the ones who should really be distancing themselves from that activist decade are those who seek to warn us about the perils of global warming.

Every day, they must wonder why more of America isn't with them. Is it laziness? Denial? The pernicious influence of corporate propaganda? All of the above, perhaps, but there's a deeper cultural reason.

Global warming has its roots in '60s environmentalism -- or, as it was known then, ecology. For a lot of people, the topic still carries a liberal-left tree-hugger vibe, and a taint of conspiracy. The right-wing strategy, which has been to paint global warming as a lofty hypothetical -- an alarmist scenario pushed by pesky Chicken Littles -- is a way of relegating it back to the era of '60s paranoia.

The challenge is how to clear those counterculture mists and claim the issue, forever, as a mainstream crisis. That's what "An Inconvenient Truth" brings off.

Be warned, for I am about to write seven of the scariest words ever to confront moviegoers: This is a documentary starring Al Gore. Is your heart still functioning?

In "An Inconvenient Truth," the man who now introduces himself by saying ''I used to be the next President of the United States'' is seen giving a lecture in which he outlines, with furrowed brow but a reassuringly jovial authority, the facts of global warming: how it works, why it's really occurring, and what will happen -- not could, but will -- if we fail to stop it.

I only do wish that the Al Gore who ran for president in 2000 could have had a peek at the Al Gore who presides over "An Inconvenient Truth." The hectoring scold, with his sighs and grimaces, his manservant stiffness, has been replaced by a funny and eloquent yarn spinner who might be ushering us into his comfy study. Backed by a beautiful collage of a slide show, Gore engages us in the mysteries of the earth -- how the planet looks from space, the craggy prehistorical grandeur of glaciers (and the visible horror of their melting away), what global warming means for weather patterns, trees, oceans, populations.

The beauty part is, Gore isn't preaching to the converted. He's reaching out to the skeptics, pitching his lecture to those who believe that there might, sort of, kind of, be something to all this but are wired, in their guts, to suspect otherwise.

Early on, Gore debunks the conservative myth that global warming may be happening (slightly), but that it's merely cyclical, by making himself into a sight gag, with an elevated ladder that hoists him up a geological graph, showing, as a visual-numerical fact, the unprecedented levels temperatures are now at.

That's just one of his many professorial/showman tricks: before-and-after slides of Mount Kilimanjaro and other hot spots, computer simulations of the effects of the potential catastrophe of the polar ice caps melting -- which, make no mistake, they are.

"An Inconvenient Truth" can't, of course, reveal a future that is still up to us, but by the time you're done watching, the real question is, Which way on God's green earth would you want to err?
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xingu
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 07:58 am
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This weekend on the show "Cashin' In," Fox News analyst Jonathan Hoenig asserted that global warming was "bogus," and "dreamed up" by environmentalists to stop economic development:

There's no scientific proof that global warming even exists. To be honest, it's a bogus consensus dreamed up by Greens because they hate industry. They hate advancement. They hate technologyÂ…Greens will lead us back to the stone ages.

It's Hoenig that's living in a dream land. Science Magazine analyzed 928 peer-reviewed scientific papers on global warming published between 1993 and 2003. Not a single one challenged the scientific consensus the earth's temperature is rising due to human activity.

A big part of the solution to global warming, of course, is technology - more efficient cars, renewable energy, cleaner production methods. Don't bother telling that to Hoenig, however. He's too busy with his conspiracy theories.

SOURCE
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 12:01 pm
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I only do wish that the Al Gore who ran for president in 2000 could have had a peek at the Al Gore who presides over "An Inconvenient Truth." The hectoring scold, with his sighs and grimaces, his manservant stiffness, has been replaced by a funny and eloquent yarn spinner who might be ushering us into his comfy study......


A quick look at a dictionary reveals the appropriate meaning of:

yarn - a narrative of adventures: story; esp: a tall tale
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 03:36 pm
It's interesting, but not surprising, that that bit of hair-splitting is what you got from that column, okie...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:41 pm
Did ol' Deadpan Al destroy the very fibre of our economy yet?
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 30 May, 2006 04:43 pm
The stock market tanked today, no doubt because of Al Gore's movie...
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 31 May, 2006 10:05 pm
Setanta wrote:
Did ol' Deadpan Al destroy the very fibre of our economy yet?


No.

Read the quote:
"If people buy into [Al Gore's] global warming hysteria, will it put him in the White House and our economy on the skids?" Steve Forbes answered yes, and called Gore's new movie "a real recipe for more socialist regulation."

The key to the statement is "if." Most people aren't dumb enough to buy into Al Gore's global warming hysteria, and I would go further to say very few even know what he says or even cares what he says, let alone buy into it. Not yet anyway.

Now if Al Gore should become president and begin to ram his ideas down everybody's throat, in the way of excessive, repressive regulations and government fixes, then the economy will suffer.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jun, 2006 02:00 am
what hysteria? saw inconvenient truth today, and its title is quite accurate. here's a graph from wikipedia, quite similar to one featured in the film, showing how closely CO2 tracks temperature: (i had to first save it to my blog in order to resize it)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6660/626/1600/Vostok_420ky_4curves_insolation.jpg

and here's one that shows the unprecedented high levels of CO2 at present:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png

glaciers are dwindling everywhere, the arctic, alaska, greenland, alps, kilimanjaro, antarctica, you name it. to cite one extreme example: polar bears are drowning because they have to swim so far to get from one ice floe to the next. the 10 hottest years ever were recorded in the last 14 years. a few years back in india, it rained 36 inches in one day. trucks needed for transporting oil in alaska get stuck because permafrost is melting. the film has many, many more examples of climactic change. in short, the evidence for global warming is overwhelming. it's fact, not theory, and if you think that's hysteria, you're in denial.
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