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Fox news does it again:"Could Gore's movie destroy economy?"

 
 
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 10:55 pm
This is beyond absurd.


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This weekend on Fox News, host David Asman asked his guests to discuss the following question: "If people buy into [Al Gore's] global warming hysteria, will it put him in the White House and our economy on the skids?" Steve Forbes answered yes, and called Gore's new movie "a real recipe for more socialist regulation."

For what it's worth, the Apollo Alliance, a coalition of labor and environmental groups, has developed a plan to "develop alternative fuels, increase energy efficiency, rebuild and expand public transportation networks and come up with other initiatives to reduce fossil fuel use" that would create more than three million jobs in the process.


Full transcript:

ASMAN: Al Gore's new documentary, An inconvenient Truth, it hits the theaters this week. If people buy into his global warming hysteria, will it put him in the White House and our economy on the skids? Steve, first off, is it gonna get him in the White House?

FORBES: No, if he believes that's gonna get him in the White House, he needs to rub on something stronger than this sunscreen.

ASMAN: Alright, but if his global warming agenda somehow gets mixed up into our agenda, the national agenda, what'll it do to the economy?

FORBES: It will ice the economy. And after all, some people do believe the DiVinci Code, so some will believe the DiGore Code. [Laughter] But the fact of the matter is, the policies that result from it would hurt the economy, would create unemployment. It's a real recipe for more socialist regulation.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 11:12 pm
If you think "that's" absurd, many Americans still think Saddam has WMDs and will retake over his country as president, and will nuke the US.
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JustanObserver
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 11:16 pm
Found some other good ones.

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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 05:47 am
Makes you wonder just how dumb conservatives are. Fox News already knows how dumb most of their viewers are. They support Bush.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:11 am
Did any of you read what was said? Whos dumb here?
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tin sword arthur
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:17 am
Al Gore has a movie out called "Could it Destroy our Economy"? Sounds like a real nail-biter, edge of your seat kind of thing.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:25 am
The question was: "If people buy into [Al Gore's] global warming hysteria, will it put him in the White House and our economy on the skids?" Steve Forbes answered yes, and called Gore's new movie "a real recipe for more socialist regulation."

I happen to agree with the obviously correct answer by Steve Forbes. Fortunately, the term "if" was at the head of the question, and I don't think very many people buy into Gore's stupidity, but "if" they did in great enough numbers and acted accordingly, it is obviously a recipe for tanking the ecomomy and more socialism, because what Gore is really saying is that the free market is not providing the correct course, the government must intervene and steer us toward much costlier and more uneconomical ways of life, which requires socialistic regulation.

All of this is totally obvious to people that understand the free market and how the economy works.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:28 am
You mean, to people who pray at the altar of profit, that almighty god, that objective which trumps all other goals - people such as yourself, Okie.

Many of us believe it is more important to live and act responsibly than it is to make as much profit as possible.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:31 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
You mean, to people who pray at the altar of profit, that almighty god, that objective which trumps all other goals - people such as yourself, Okie.

Many of us believe it is more important to live and act responsibly than it is to make as much profit as possible.

Cycloptichorn


Here we go again with this utter nonsense about profits. Go run a business and see if profit is not important. How do you live Cyclops? Somebody pays you something. Is it a company or the government that forces the rest of us to pay you for what you do?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:33 am
okie wrote:
The question was: "If people buy into [Al Gore's] global warming hysteria, will it put him in the White House and our economy on the skids?" Steve Forbes answered yes, and called Gore's new movie "a real recipe for more socialist regulation."

I happen to agree with the obviously correct answer by Steve Forbes. Fortunately, the term "if" was at the head of the question, and I don't think very many people buy into Gore's stupidity, but "if" they did in great enough numbers and acted accordingly, it is obviously a recipe for tanking the ecomomy and more socialism, because what Gore is really saying is that the free market is not providing the correct course, the government must intervene and steer us toward much costlier and more uneconomical ways of life, which requires socialistic regulation.

All of this is totally obvious to people that understand the free market and how the economy works.


I don't think there is anything obvious or correct about that reply. It makes a huge assumption (emphasis on ass) that acknowledging global warming = economy crippling regulation. I don't see how that is inevitable. And even if it is inevitable, I don't see how someone can rationally argue that we ought to ignore global climate change because it will have a negative effect on our economy. Hurrican Katrina and her friends have a negative effect on our economy.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:41 am
If Gore actually believes the internal combustion engine is one of the greatest threats to mankind, as well as other sources of pollution that fits into his view of what is so dangerous, and we are near the tipping point now, I would think he should try to enact very drastic measures to correct it NOW. After all, small incremental effects would be useless, with increased populations and emerging countries will more than take up the slack in any reductions of pollution. Let him try to get us all to ride bicycles, park our cars, trucks, and RVs, shut down the power plants, etc.? We are certainly not going to do it voluntarily unless he gets his government to declare martial law and force us all to do what he wants.

This subject is totally in the twilight zone, as is Al Gore's ideas.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:42 am
Sigh. I never said that profits weren't important; just that they aren't the most important thing in life...

It's hard to see how some people could care more about money than the environment, or living morally....

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:45 am
What did Al Gore do about this while he was a senator or during the 8 years he was Vice-President?

Nothing.

Why is that?
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:48 am
Living morally encompasses much more than what you view as detrimental to the environment. And profits and the environment are not mutually exclusive. If you wish not to disturb the environment any at all, then we all go back to the caves. I don't wish to do that, I don't know about you, Cyclops?
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 09:51 am
McGentrix wrote:
What did Al Gore do about this while he was a senator or during the 8 years he was Vice-President?

Nothing.

Why is that?


The whole thing is phony. If Gore actually believed his own mantra, he would actually quit driving his own cars, quit jetsetting around the country, and live in a smaller house. Typically a hypocrit, like all the Hollywood buddies, some of the most wasteful environmentally unfriendly people found anywhere. Hypocrits all of them.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 11:02 am
okie wrote:
If Gore actually believes the internal combustion engine is one of the greatest threats to mankind, as well as other sources of pollution that fits into his view of what is so dangerous, and we are near the tipping point now, I would think he should try to enact very drastic measures to correct it NOW. After all, small incremental effects would be useless, with increased populations and emerging countries will more than take up the slack in any reductions of pollution. Let him try to get us all to ride bicycles, park our cars, trucks, and RVs, shut down the power plants, etc.? We are certainly not going to do it voluntarily unless he gets his government to declare martial law and force us all to do what he wants.

This subject is totally in the twilight zone, as is Al Gore's ideas.


Have you seen the movie? I ask because I haven't so I don't know if he believes the internal combustion engine is one of the greatest threats to mankind. What makes you think that drastic measures must be of the form of economy crippling regulation? Republicans have been singing that tune since the 80's and in my opinion that's what has made this problem worse. If it had been acknowledged then, and small, low-impact, incremental measures had been put in place then, don't you think the problem would be less likely to need such extreme measures now?

And I'll just reiterate that the fact that it might cost us money is no reason to ignore a serious problem. Do you ignore a gaping hole in your tooth because it will cost you money to go to the dentist? Do you avoid fixing your car because it costs money? We have a choice between spending money on long term solutions to the problem, or spending money on the near term consequences of doing nothing.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 02:06 pm
FreeDuck wrote:

Have you seen the movie? I ask because I haven't so I don't know if he believes the internal combustion engine is one of the greatest threats to mankind. What makes you think that drastic measures must be of the form of economy crippling regulation? Republicans have been singing that tune since the 80's and in my opinion that's what has made this problem worse. If it had been acknowledged then, and small, low-impact, incremental measures had been put in place then, don't you think the problem would be less likely to need such extreme measures now?

No I don't intend to see his movie and I don't intend on supporting his fiction with money. Read his book, I've heard its in there about the internal combustion engine. If drastic things are about to happen, I would think logic would tell you drastic measures need to be taken instead of piddly token political programs that accomplish little or nothing.

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And I'll just reiterate that the fact that it might cost us money is no reason to ignore a serious problem. Do you ignore a gaping hole in your tooth because it will cost you money to go to the dentist? Do you avoid fixing your car because it costs money? We have a choice between spending money on long term solutions to the problem, or spending money on the near term consequences of doing nothing.


We are spending money and things are moving forward, mostly because of the market driving it. When oil becomes scarcer, if it does, then other things become more competitive. My side's solution is fixing the car. Your side is saying abandon the car, park it, and trust in some pie in the sky technology that is neither proven to work for sure at the present time, or it is not feasible economically. Simply have confidence in American ingenuity and the free market. This has worked in the past, and will again. It is working now. Example, new wind farms springing up around the country, just one of many examples of alternative energy becoming a reality.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 02:12 pm
not only destroy the US economy but likely lead to the rapid heat-death of the universe.

don't give a hoot, pollute!

i wonder, do they drug test at Faux or is it that they are all just so insane?
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 02:22 pm
In answer to the conservative know-it-all who earlier questioned what Gore did re global warming as VP:

The US agreed to the Kyoto Protocols under Clinton (and Gore). You're probably glad Bush withdrew from the agreement, but to say Gore is only now concerned about global warming is out-and-out BS.

Now, Bush, on the other hand, with his new-found awareness of "our addiction to oil"--that's a profound case of a "D-oh!"moment...
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 25 May, 2006 02:26 pm
All politicians have been talking about our addiction to oil since the oil embargo in early 70's and before that. Nothing new there. Carter was going to solve the problem and threw tons of money into a program he had, I don't even remember the name, which accomplished little or nothing.
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