Tony Snow and "Tar Babies"

Disney did a movie called Song of the South that included the story of the tar baby. I read it as a child and saw the film.

The story is here-
http://home.nycap.rr.com/cyclone/disney/sots/tarbaby.htm

Set is right. This story is BS. You might as well be arguing that "niggardly" is a slur. (I suggest you look up the word before you make a fool of yourself.)



You think maybe Snow used the word because he knew that some LW extremists would throw him in the briar patch rather than stick to the real topics of what this administration is doing.

parados, it's possible to concentrate on the things this administration is doing and to discuss Snow's insensitive tar baby statement too. There is a reason Bushie dont get much of the minority vote especially from blacks. And this kind of insensitivity is part of that. More than a handful of blacks would be offended by the phrase Toni Morrison compares to the "n" word.

Bob Cesca


05.17.2006
Fox News Presents! The War On Darkies

Last week, Fox News Channel's John Gibson urged white people to make more babies in order to counter the growing Latino population in America. Watch Stephen Colbert present Gibson's ridiculousness here.

Next up... Tony Snow, former Fox pundit and current White House press secretary, blurted out "squeezing the tar baby" in his first official press conference.


And most recently, Media Matters took note of O'Reilly's Talking Point Memo segment in which he lashed out at "far left thinkers" for opposing the "white power structure that controls America".

O'Reilly thinks it's a bad thing that idiots like you and me want a society and government that's multicultural. Gibson thinks it's a matter of national urgency that, in decades to come, white people will be a minority in America. Now, name any white power group, be it Stormfront, the KKK, the Aryan Nation, or the Neo-Nazis and tell me if the collective talking points aren't oh so eerily similar.

It's one thing for O'Reilly and Gibson to roll out their annual "War on Christmas" comedy spoofs. It's one thing for the network to be the unabashed mouthpiece for the Republican government and the Bush administration. But it's another thing entirely for FNC's pundits to literally encourage white power.

But at least they're out in the open with dwindling ratings and almost zero credibility as a legitimate news source. And it'll only get worse once they roll out the seizure-inducing graphics package heralding:

FOX NEWS PRESENTS! The War On Darkies! Gibson offering tips on how to generate the "whitest sperm". O'Reilly belting out Talking Point Memos about how to tell if your neighbor is a mud person -- or simply covered in mud. Sean Hannity shouting "packow! packow!" whilst blasting fire hoses at minorities from his really cool helicopter. Geraldo will leave the network, of course. Maybe he'll jump over to PAX -- the only network to not have employed him so far.

Yes, it's all so funny, isn't it? Actually it's not. Unless I'm very wrong, hate speech and white power is going mainstream. Again. And I, for one, welcome Fox News to be the leader on this one. I don't think they should be fined or pulled off the air. I think they ought to be allowed to prance around in pointy hoods and arm bands and shown for who they really are. Then as their ratings continue to drop and their advertisers abandon them, we can be satisfied that justice has been served in America. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/fox-news-presents-the-w_b_21195.html

What i said was that your reading comprehension skills are apparently poor. You've done nothing to convince me otherwise.



I suggest that you need to chill out, if this is your idea of an important story. You certainly are casting stones, you're attempting to condemn Snow on a very questionable basis. The point you're trying to make is that Snow is racist, but you don't have any real evidence to that effect. He may be. If you come up with any reasonable evidence to that effect, i suggest you start a thread in which you provide your proof. Here, you simply suggest it by inference, based on the use of a term that it is by no means clearly taken to be a racial epithet by everyone who hears or reads it.

No, you aren't forcing me to participate, nor can you stop me from doing so. I submit, you got hysterical over nothing. I did not hysterically characterize you as a "Bush-hater." I did point out that this is a tempest in a teapot, motivated by partisan prejudice.

Yitwail, i don't deny the use of the term as a racist epithet. I am pointing out that it is not automatically an epithet, not automatically taken as an epithet, and not universally understood as an epithet. I further am pointing out that a great many people use it to mean a hopeless situation, and that is widely understood as such.

Therefore, i further submit that your point about Snow's experience and his use of the expression is not at all conclusive, and that one need be motivated by partisan suspicion to automatically assume that Snow was being racist in his speech--or even crypto-racist. The contention does not stand up to reasonable examination.

To put this further into perspective, my reaction is also based on the author of this thread. There are some members whom--such as Roxxxanie, or Blueflame or Freedom4Free or D.I.--i would have ignored has they posted the thread, because i already consider them to be unreasonably and unreasoningly over the top in terms of hysterical criticism of those with whom they disagree.

Such is not my view of Justanobserver, whom i consider to be mostly reasonable (he loses his temper, yes, as do i). My experience of his contributions to this site is that they are usually reasonable, and usually reasonably founded. I do not consider this thread to be an example of a reasonable contention, reasonably based.

thanks for a reasonable examination. i agree that his remark in and of itself is not evidence of racism. i do consider it something of a faux pas, especially on his very first briefing.