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Leftist candidate worries Mexican elite

 
 
el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 01:04 am
Dang it, I gotta catch some Z's. Unfortunately, whatever the outcome, I have to keep my job.

Calderón up by 0.93% and still going down!!! This is more exciting than the WC, haha!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:32 am
Just saw a headline in which both candidates are claiming victory.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:47 am
... following this through the CBC (and this thread) ...
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:55 am
This is a projection of the preliminary results system. A difference of .01 percent!

proyección BGC
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 06:59 am
... and (a digression) I have 5 names (3 given names, 2 last names), a freaking drag for documents.

We normally use both last names when one of them is too common, Lopez is on the top 10.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:07 am
PREP is showing 36.55% Calderon, 35.46% Lopez-Obrador, 94.41% of the vote counted, as of 08:00 CDT
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:17 am
Now the PRD people are going to put pressure on the electoral authority.

I suppose that Calderón will be declared winner on Wednesday and I foresee this thing ending up in the Electoral Tribunal.

Calderón pledged for stability, López Obrador for social justice. We need both.

Calderón trhoughly defeated López Obrador in the vote of Mexican foreign residents... hmmm
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 08:04 am
He did? I though the majority of "braseros" would incline their preferences towards Obrador...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:05 am
Looks like the right is holding the lead...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:09 am
Offer the left a few pesos and they'll sell their mother down the river... Smile
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:15 am
With 97% of the prescincts in, it does look unsurmountable.

Chihuahua and Sonore are the states with most remaining prescincts, not precisely PRD land.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:24 am
Exactly, the less than 1% lead, with more than 97% of the ballots, looks definite. Its interesting how the country is divided. Center and South, the left won with the same intensity as the right in the north. It seems that the middle class decided this election. There should be a second round in our system.

The true left candidate, Patricia Mercado, won't reach her goal...

I'm afraid of the outcome, I don't sympathize with the winner.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:30 am
el_pohl wrote:

The true left candidate, Patricia Mercado, won't reach her goal...

I'm afraid of the outcome, I don't sympathize with the winner.


She did!
Her party has kept the registry (shich means public funding). And unless something weird happens with the remaining 3% of the prescincts, they've reached Congress.

As for myself, I'd be more afraid with the other outcome. I happen to dislike political messiahs.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:34 am
Good for Mercado then.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:36 am
She did??? Woah, I though that she needed to reach 3% in the presidential ballots...

And I also thought that Dr. Simi would receive more votes. Razz

By the way Baez, have you heard about "el yunque"?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:43 am
el_pohl wrote:
She did??? Woah, I though that she needed to reach 3% in the presidential ballots...

And I also thought that Dr. Simi would receive more votes. Razz

By the way Baez, have you heard about "el yunque"?


Sure, El Yunque (The Anvil), the extreme-right religious group who wants to bring to earth the reign of God.
Tecos, MURO, FUA were their original organizations, and Guadalajara is their center of operations.
Several PAN members are yunquistas. I know that. And I vomit them.

I also know real politics count a lot. And that, for example, during this PAN government there was less censorship than in the preceeding PRI governments.

The "Here-come-the-crucifixes" scare is as old as this country, and it's as false as the "Here-come-the-commies-who-will-take-your-property" scare.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:55 am
Yeah well, thats something I entirely dislike about the PAN. I'm not sure whether the diminishing censorship happened thanks to Fox's sissy attitude or to more aggressive media.

Calderon does look more energetic - evident with his arm gestures - and I like the fact that her wife doesn't seem to want protagonism. That was another of Fox's problems. But in the end, I don't know if Calderon will be able of reducing the differences between high and low classes, which is the main problem in our country. I don't like his vision in important topics like abortion, being a right conservative with religious bonds. And I'm not sure if he is strong enough to negotiate with Bush and the congress (although he will have more support). His capitalistic vision also makes me doubt.

Oh well, I think he was the safe bet.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 11:01 am
Calderon it is?

Congratulations (kinda-sorta in a, I know you thought it was the lesser evil, way) to Fbaezer, then. My sympathies were more along the lines of el pohl's and Pantalones', but then, I dont have to live it.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 11:16 am
I am not talking about censorship of the news media, which was nonexistent.
I was thinking on films and TV.
Remember the clergy wanted "El Crimen del Padre Amaro" to be censored? It wasn't and got a B-15 rating. They also wanted, and pressed very hard -I can assure- for "The Passion of the Christ" to get less than a C rating, and didn't make it.
Their efforts for private schools to be tax-deductible also failed.
Mexican TV is open, much more than in the US, and it's as vulgar and more procacious. Where are the censors?

As late as 1993 I got into quarrels with RTC for the appearance of lesbian themes on TV, the use of the word "güey", Brozo touching a model's buttock or the military's role in 1968 (I was Programming Director of TV Azteca). This may sound absurd now. And before the 90's it was the Dark Ages.
So the PAN in the federal government sends me no liberal shivers.

I dislike many of them because they are conceited, unprepared and frivolous. I don't like their blend of social darwinism and good will. I, of course, am against their "pro-life" stance. But Mexico is a much more secular country than most, and they just can't beat that.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 11:30 am
True, true, and true.

And I miss that Brozo... his association with Andrés Bustamante and Jose Ramón Fernández was unstoppable.
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