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Leftist candidate worries Mexican elite

 
 
fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 01:42 pm
Yeah, but Joserra is getting old, and bends so much to the sponsors requests that he's always hurrying Bustamante.

Ah! The good ol' times of State TV! Laughing

Back to the elections: 98% of the prescincts, still a 1 point lead.
And PASC has mathematically surpassed the threshold, even if they don't get a single extra vote.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:21 pm
As expected, after 98.3% of the votes counted, and his possibilities discarded, AMLO says the counting system has inconsistencies.

This is going to be soooo long.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:46 pm
Aargh.

Holding up there, Fbaezer?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 07:53 pm
Piece o'cake, dlowan.

The difference is 400 thousand votes. Enough.

The thing is over, and results won't be overturned, but they do have the right to a good tantrum! We'll rock a little before going to bed and unto another boring PAN administration.

The markets have already discarded any big upheaval, IMHO, the stock market went up 4.8% and the peso gained 23 cents against the US dollar.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 08:58 pm
Oh come on fbaezer, don't tell me you didn't expect this!

Cross your fingers cause he COULD start riots...

... but I think he'll keep it decent.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2006 10:26 pm
I expected a higher vote difference, either way.

Part of PRD is radicalized. We know that.
The "Panchos Villa", the Bejaranistas, most of CID, the Tri-Sect.
Today some of AMLO supporters were chanting "we have no salvation, we need a revolution".
AMLO's advisors were keen on telling -in the impeachment days- that AMLO was very responsible, as he held the reins of people wanting to riot.
I think AMLO is, first of all, a shrewd politician. He has no future if there is serious rioting.
If he "holds" them as he pushes them, then he can sell himself as a key player for governance, and be the leader of an influential party with over 200 members in the Federal House and Senate, the party that controls Mexico City and governs several other states.
If not, he will become a sort of political bete noire, win nothing, and some of his former mates will betray him... sooner (i'm thinking of Ebrard).

The feeling I've got in the streets of Mexico City (AMLO's stronghold, where he grabbed 58% of the vote) is very calm, and almost every AMLO follower I've met, from the cab driver or people on the sidewalk to the boys at the equivalent of the 7-11, is that AMLO lost and he better not make a big fuss about it.

So... we'll rock a little, wait too much (my bet: not IFE but the electoral tribunal will say the last word) and end up with Calderón at Los Pinos.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 12:09 am
Did you see Adela Micha's show tonight? The PRD representative (I forgot his name Embarrassed ) mentioned a number of anomalities that where present in the PREP counts. Vote substracting for all candidates, duplicates, mismatches, sums not adding up. He carried some evidence, prints from the PREP's site... everything is going to be checked. The null votes is another story. I still think that Calderon will keep his lead.

I wonder how the country is going to behave as it was split in 2 regarding electoral preferences. All north to Calderon, all south to AMLO. Good thing Madrazo resigned.

I'm rooting for Amalia García en 2012. Sad
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:13 am
The PREP worked out just fine; at the end you'll see the errors are on the level of 0.1%.
I heard Carmen Aristegui's interview of one of the fast-count experts. He was explaining all three sub-samples of their (gigantic) sample carried the same winner, that only one of them carried a diference over 1.2 percent (that is over a maximum allowed error 0.6 points each way).

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I don't know if Amalia García (the governor of Zacatecas) would be a good President, but I like her, and would probably vote for her were it the case. She represents the decent part of PRD.
Just to tell you how much I'm into politics, I had a precious ticket for the Pumas-Monterrey final on Dec. 2004, but I rather gave it to my son and went to dinner with old PSUM comrades Amalia and Zacatecas senator Raymundo Cárdenas instead.

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This brings me to another, terrible, issue. Calderón will most probably be President... and, unlike AMLO or Madrazo, he's younger than me. Ugh!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:20 am
Welcome to the club.

This brings me to another, terrible, issue. Calderón will most probably be President... and, unlike AMLO or Madrazo, he's younger than me. Ugh!
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:47 am
This are the unofficial results for Congress (lower house):

PAN: 199 (+51)
PRD/PT/CD: 166 (+58)
PRI/PVEM: 122 (-122)
PANAL: 9 (+9)
PASC: 4 (+4)

Senate (upper house)

PAN: 52 (+5)
PRI/PVEM: 38 (-27)
PRD/PT/CD: 36 (+20)
PANAL: 2 (+2)

Huge shifts, all at the expense of PRI (since the "greens" sold their alliance for a good number of seats and will lose next to nothing).
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el pohl
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 11:07 am
Dang it fbaezer, thats hardcore. But Amalia is really decent, and bears a low profile, unlike Rosario Robles... who has been unfortunate.

So Mr. Clean - Calderón - is calling out to form a "government of unity". I smell something fishy with the resignment of Madrazo and Campa. Do you think Calderón will include members of the opposition in his gabinet?

Gabinet es gabinete? Jaja.

And yes, I started feeling the age problem with Andrés Guardado. It strikes hard.

BTW Calderón should do a soap commercial. Razz
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 03:48 pm
Hardcore... Rosario Robles. Sure! Laughing

She was my classmate at UNAM, we were members of the same extremist group for a while (I became "a reformist" according to their view), she married our Marxism teacher, before being seduced by Power Politics & Riches.

Calderón... Mr. Clean Laughing

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You're older than Guardado! Two of my children are older than Guardado.
But I'm younger than Lavolpe!
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el pohl
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2006 09:06 pm
Dang it Baez, you have quite a background!

Another one on the elections. A classmate of mine lives in Rosarito. This "city", for our foreign thread seekers, is a small city that spawned from Tijuana and survives of american turism. This friend was a representant of the PRD in the voting booth (I have problems picking words...). Well, according to him, the whole thing is a mess.

According to the PREP, Calderón won in Rosarito, by a wide margin. However my mate says that in general, AMLO won by a small number of votes from booth to booth. One particular situation was explained. The PREP had registered 25 votes for AMLO in one booth, while the reported number was 125.

This situations will get cleared, as well as the 2,500 million ballots that weren't considered who knows why.

I feel like in Hollywood.

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And finally, I have the slightest hint that this is you!:

Mr. Baez

Razz
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 08:28 am
The famous 2.5 million votes are in. And Calderón lead is smaller: 257 thousand votes. 0.62 %

Still one million to be counted.

Read this (in Spanish)

Elecciones 2006: especulación y realidad - Ciro Murayama (asesor de Woldenberg)
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el pohl
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 11:47 am
Thats a good explanation of the method allright. I couldn't expect less from him haha. For the moment we can only wait and see.

After the long and stressing period of political bombarding through the media, I was glad that it would be over by the 3rd of this month. God, was I wrong.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 12:30 pm
el_pohl wrote:

And finally, I have the slightest hint that this is you!:

Mr. Baez

Razz


That's me, about 6 years ago.
I look better now. Smile
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el pohl
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 01:35 pm
Less hair probably? Razz
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 04:00 pm
My Spanish is almost non-existent.

Is that about the nature of commercial television?
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 04:05 pm
Nah. it was a about TV commercials.
I write a monthly column on TV, plus assorted media stuff, in a specialized magazine (where el_pohl found the pic).
A monthly column on baseball, during MLB season.
A biweekly column on politics.
Articles on different stuff, from football to economics to polls & statistics to you name it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 5 Jul, 2006 04:20 pm
BBB says two people are claiming victory??????
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