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So Now We Are Down to the Final Four

 
 
paull
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 03:13 pm
dont let Roxanne bother you, Ash, I have always assumed he has a limited and like minded circle of friends, and hence never learned to argue.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 06:11 pm
paull wrote:
dont let Roxanne bother you, Ash, I have always assumed he has a limited and like minded circle of friends, and hence never learned to argue.


Hey genius, you obviously know nothing about my personal life, you can't even get the spelling of my name or the pronoun "she" right.

But do check in the next time your parents allow you online again.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 06:14 pm
Asherman wrote:
Well, you've said in so many words above that I've lost my mind and live in a fantasy world divorsed from reality. You, and others here, clailm that Senator McCain has "lost his mind", and changed from a courageous national hero to a craven brown-nosed politician willing to do anything to be elected. You obviously don't agree the Senator's or my points of view, but your response is simple ... "You've lost your mind".

To point out your ad hominum falacy is not a 'strawman' arguement. The accusation that any disagreeable demonstration, example, or metaphor is a "strawman" arguement is getting a bit stale.


If you were a moron like half the right-wingers here, I could excuse you but apparently you are intelligent and well-educated yet astonishingly out of touch with today's political realities. It is really sad actually. It is like your were frozen in some other time.
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paull
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 07:32 pm
Roxy, do South Beach, Susan's Place, and UPS ring a bell?

Btw you are a darn good guitar player and should post your MySpace link.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 07:36 pm
paull wrote:
Roxy, do South Beach, Susan's Place, and UPS ring a bell?

Btw you are a darn good guitar player and should post your MySpace link.


Nope, except for South Beach, been there a few times.
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paull
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 08:12 pm
Ok then RoxXXANNE, leaving that aside ma'm, your accusing some of us of dementia really is neither arguing or discussing. I really do think that you don't get out enough to hear any opinion other than your own (especially here).

The FACTS are that Bush did not lie about WMD, did not "out" a CIA "agent", nor screw up the hurricane response. I don't have to decide whether to vote for him again, tyvm amendment XXII, but I doubt very much that I would be happier with Gore or Kerry in office with BOTH a nuclear Iran AND Iraq, NO no fly zones, and a puppy dog in the UN in the place of John Bolton.

As soon as the Democrats widen their focus from the people who receive the dole (government employees, especially teachers, and personal injury attorneys, et. al.) to include some of us who daily pay through the nose to supply it, they will sweep the nation.

That will never happen, because the Dems, like the Repubs, are all about themselves. As it is, it has always been.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2006 09:03 pm
"It is like your were frozen in some other time."

Thank you. I regard that as a compliment. It is true that sometimes I feel like an outsider, and am bewildered at why people would abandon those virtues and values that have served the nation so well. I'm far more interested in the individual and individual liberty, than in social improvements and/or social insurance against all the woes that flesh is heir to. I prize patience, forbearance and a willingness to negotiate compromise. I'm unabashedly for America, her Constitution and traditional governmental system. I favor the strong, central government of the Federalists, yet I believe that the Federal government has come to play far too important a role in what should properly be State affairs. I am uncomfortable with this modern notion that government can and should be by plebiscite or poll.

I still value the old virtues: gravitas, duty, honor, loyalty to country especially when it is criticized by foreigners. Courage, sacrifice, and the wind-ruffled colors of our flag can bring tears to my eyes. I believe in and trust the American People to see the right, and then to do it without regard to the cost in blood or treasure. I think folks are smarter than they are given credit for by those who see themselves as a cosmopolitan elite. I sure don't trust folks who say they know whats better from me than I know myself. And, you know what, I still believe most Americans are closer to my views than they are to the utopian promises of the Socialists and Marxists whose views of America seem to be doom and gloom ... unless we more vigorously adopt the very ideas that ruined the old Soviet Union.
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