Obama '08?

Given Obama's frequent flip flops lately, and the fact that he has just this last day or two purged his entire website of ALL the scathing criticism of the Iraq war and the surge that was there. . . .

. . . and he now has his spokespeople saying that he NEVER said that the surge would not reduce violence--this even though I'm pretty sure that I personally have heard him say the exact opposite of that--. . . .

The presumed Democratic nominee replaced his Iraq issue Web page, which had described the surge as a "problem" that had barely reduced violence.

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kickycan wrote:

Obama hasn't done half the **** that the lying right would have us believe. And even the questionable stuff he has done is so minor only a complete moron would give a ****. He's thinking, evaluating, and making new assessments as things change. That is what good leaders do. His core ideas haven't changed, and that's what matters.

Of course phonies like Foxfyre and Okie won't ever admit that, and will instead take every chance they can to yell "flip-flopper!" or bitch about some minor issue as if it were worse than treason, or say, attacking a sovereign nation based on lies and horseshit. I guess if you're an old dried-up conservative partisan tw*t with an axe to grind, you see it differently. But that's just old politics. The dinosaur politics of lying and hate. That's what Obama is going to hopefully defeat this year. That win-at-all-costs brand of stupidity that has turned our government into two teams trying to destroy one another, instead of working together for compromise.

But you ultra-partisan tw*ts just keep on firing away. You're missing the mark by a mile, because you just don't get it. You are liars, and if things go the way they should, you will soon be obsolete.

Hummm…I think I see what you mean about getting more intellectual and sophisticated in your political posts, Kick. Certainly an improvement over the old rascally self you use to project. Stick to this higher plane. It suits you. And I think your honorable opponents truly deserve the respect you are paying them.

Nice signature line realjohnboy.

Frank! Are you merely a figment, or are you back?

Mr Obama said yesterday that he wanted to secure the border, adding: "We need more troops, more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones." He reiterated that the US forces should be ready to cross into Pakistan without permission "to take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights".

Betcha he wouldn't do it as half-assedly as George Bush did it. Twice.

teenyboone wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

I have to wonder why Obama seems to be dodging this meeting.
By dodging it, it looks like, to me, that he doesnt want to face veterans...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/12/us/politics/12obama.html?ei=5124&en=318f2ce8402d7125&ex=1373515200&adxnnl=1&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink&adxnnlx=1215867724-AkKSJMGvT85uAkwKfES5ng

A coalition of military groups is planning a nationally televised town-hall-style meeting with the presidential candidates near Fort Hood, Tex., the largest active-duty military installation in the country. But so far, only Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee, has agreed to attend.

CBS has agreed to broadcast the meeting live from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, Aug. 11. The candidates would face questions directly from an audience of 6,000 people, made up of veterans, service members and military families from the base.

Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has not agreed to participate

Where's Bush? You voted for him, didn't you? Why can't HE solve his OWN problems! McSame, says he's going to KEEP our soldiers there for 100 years! Let McSame talk to the active duty and veterans about THAT! Why should Obama solve Bush's problems?

McCains going to be at that town hall meeting, why isnt Obama?
And lets be honest, you dont want Bush to get us out of Iraq.
That would kill any chance Obama had of winning the election, and you dont want that to happen, at any cost.

And you can complain about what McCain said only AFTER you start complaining about the dem president that has had us in Europe since 1944.
thats 64 years so far.

Obama says we should send troops into Pakistan...

Quote:

Mr Obama said yesterday that he wanted to secure the border, adding: "We need more troops, more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones." He reiterated that the US forces should be ready to cross into Pakistan without permission "to take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights".

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4339451.ece

So now he admits that he wants to invade Pakistan.


And before any of you whine that it wouldnt be an invasion, ANYTIME you send armed troops into a foreign country without that countries permission, its an invasion.

username wrote:

Betcha he wouldn't do it as half-assedly as George Bush did it. Twice.

Are you saying that it would be OK for him to invade Pakistan?

Can you imagine what the conservatives will be saying, if these numbers were reversed?
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Obama has 7-point edge on McCain: Reuters poll

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent Wed Jul 16, 7:03 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has a 7-point lead on Republican John McCain in the U.S. presidential race, and holds a small edge on the crucial question of who would best manage the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.