Obama '08?

cicerone imposter wrote:

So now, you can be convicted of a crime on "intent?"

The answer is yes. There are numerous laws involving nothing more than conspiracies to do something unlawful - both in this country and most others.

If you think for a moment cicerone, you will appreciate that it would be very foolish to do otherwise.

Finally a president that does what he means and means what he says

Why is it so difficult for Oblama to say he was WRONG

georgeob1 wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

So now, you can be convicted of a crime on "intent?"

The answer is yes. There are numerous laws involving nothing more than conspiracies to do something unlawful - both in this country and most others.

If you think for a moment cicerone, you will appreciate that it would be very foolish to do otherwise.

And who exactly is "policing" all those intents to do wrong?

One of the fundamental purposes of the criminal law is to prevent conduct that is harmful to society. Accordingly, the law punishes conduct that threatens to produce the harm, as well as conduct that has actually produced it. However, the law does not punish all persons shown to harbor a criminal intent. Everyone occasionally thinks of committing a crime, but few actually carry the thought into action. Therefore, the law proceeds only against persons who engage in acts that sufficiently demonstrate their firm intention to commit a crime.

In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between natural persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join "the plot" later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted and/or cannot be traced. Finally, repentance by one or more parties does not affect liability but may reduce their sentence.

..............."Accordingly, the law punishes conduct that >>>>>> >
threatens to produce the harm
<<<<<<<<as well as conduct that has actually produced it."

cicerone imposter wrote:

..............."Accordingly, the law punishes conduct that >>>>>> >
threatens to produce the harm
<<<<<<<<as well as conduct that has actually produced it."

This is the most elementary parsing of the law on intent:

"threatens to produce the harm"

and if you still can't grasp it perhaps you could get someone to read it back to you slowly. As to magic - read the link I posted explaining no magic is involved.

Terribly sorry to see you've had such a lapse in mental processes, Cicerone, and certainly I wish you a speedy recovery

Obama hasn't done half the **** that the lying right would have us believe.

kickycan wrote:

Obama hasn't done half the **** that the lying right would have us believe.

Obama hasn't done half the **** the left believes he has and he will never do most of the **** he has promised to do.

Obama hasn't done half the **** that the lying right would have us believe. And even the questionable stuff he has done is so minor only a complete moron would give a ****. He's thinking, evaluating, and making new assessments as things change. That is what good leaders do. His core ideas haven't changed, and that's what matters.

Of course phonies like Foxfyre and Okie won't ever admit that, and will instead take every chance they can to yell "flip-flopper!" or bitch about some minor issue as if it were worse than treason, or say, attacking a sovereign nation based on lies and horseshit. I guess if you're an old dried-up conservative partisan tw*t with an axe to grind, you see it differently. But that's just old politics. The dinosaur politics of lying and hate. That's what Obama is going to hopefully defeat this year. That win-at-all-costs brand of stupidity that has turned our government into two teams trying to destroy one another, instead of working together for compromise.

But you ultra-partisan tw*ts just keep on firing away. You're missing the mark by a mile, because you just don't get it. You are liars, and if things go the way they should, you will soon be obsolete.