okie wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:"Obama the puppet?" ROFL
Maybe not a complete puppet, but don't believe for a minute that he may not have to cowtow to them. Don't forget these people can still pull lots of strings. How much ability they have to do this, time will tell, but I don't think they intend on retiring to the Bahamas, ci.
Right... Look at where all their influence and string-pulling got them. On the losing side. They had all the strings, and Obama, the newbie, defeated them anyway.
Now they have less influence than they've had at any time since '92. A lot less than even half a year ago, because a lot of the fealty that they could rely on depended on the perception that they were the winners, and people knew they were the go-to persons. Now, not so much anymore.
Throughout the primaries, Obama's stoically ignored their machinations -- and came out on top. No reason that he should suddenly succumb to their sway now that he's actually defeated them.
Look at where the Veep debate went; for a week or two after the last primary, all of the Clintons' players were pushing the idea for a rapid embrace of Hillary as veep, people were talking about how difficult it would be for Obama to resist and rebuff without chaos ensuing. Well, here we are a coupla weeks later and what happened? Nothing. Steady Eddie just sailed through the onslaught without burrowing a frow, and in any article about the Veepstakes now Hillary is just one name out of X. He may still choose her, but he's made clear that he wont be bullied into anything.
Sorry, your scenarios wont fly...