Obama '08?

I am completely out of step with the GOP. Possibly the reincarnation of Jerry Falwell would jazz them... Let me try to channel them...

Certainly Powell--where the hell has he been?

I've noticed that you're a feisty little devil.

Lash wrote:

I am completely out of step with the GOP. Possibly the reincarnation of Jerry Falwell would jazz them... Let me try to channel them...

Certainly Powell--where the hell has he been?

Yeah, about that? He's advising Obama.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554812/Powell-ready-to-jump-on-Obama-bandwagon.html

Ouch

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Lash wrote:

I am completely out of step with the GOP. Possibly the reincarnation of Jerry Falwell would jazz them... Let me try to channel them...

Certainly Powell--where the hell has he been?

Yeah, about that? He's advising Obama.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554812/Powell-ready-to-jump-on-Obama-bandwagon.html

Ouch

Cycloptichorn

That story has a date that is a year old, cyclops, according to my computer screen.

Before Obama became the presumptive nominee, geogeob1 and others crowed about how well McCain was doing in the national polls. I pointed out that the polls were more or less irrelevant until Obama was the nominee and it became a fari fight, one against one. And that I expected that Obama would surge to as much as a 15 point lead weeks after he became the presumptive nominee.


Voila! The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama with a 15 point lead.

Finn, It's not his "change" message that I'm impressed with. It's about his ability to "work" within the political system for his advantage whether its about domestic issues or dealing with foreign countries. He's sharp enough to understand what works and what doesn't work; that is mighty powerful in the world of politics.

Forget "change;" it sells enough donuts even though all of 'em have holes in them. What matters is his ability to sell those donuts.

Roxxxanne wrote:

Before Obama became the presumptive nominee, geogeob1 and others crowed about how well McCain was doing in the national polls. I pointed out that the polls were more or less irrelevant until Obama was the nominee and it became a fari fight, one against one. And that I expected that Obama would surge to as much as a 15 point lead weeks after he became the presumptive nominee.


Voila! The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama with a 15 point lead.

When it comes to Obama, Newsweek reminds me of my daughter's Yellow Lab bitch. In the presence of her "pack leader," she either pees on the floor or lays on her back.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Finn, It's not his "change" message that I'm impressed with. It's about his ability to "work" within the political system for his advantage whether its about domestic issues or dealing with foreign countries. He's sharp enough to understand what works and what doesn't work; that is mighty powerful in the world of politics.

Forget "change;" it sells enough donuts even though all of 'em have holes in them. What matters is his ability to sell those donuts.

Am I to take this seriously?

Voila! The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama with a 15 point lead.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Roxxxanne wrote:

Before Obama became the presumptive nominee, geogeob1 and others crowed about how well McCain was doing in the national polls. I pointed out that the polls were more or less irrelevant until Obama was the nominee and it became a fari fight, one against one. And that I expected that Obama would surge to as much as a 15 point lead weeks after he became the presumptive nominee.


Voila! The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama with a 15 point lead.

When it comes to Obama, Newsweek reminds me of my daughter's Yellow Lab bitch. In the presence of her "pack leader," she either pees on the floor or lays on her back.

Do you see any media giving inordinate deference to McCain?

Quote:

Op-Ed Columnist
The Two Obamas


By DAVID BROOKS
Published: June 20, 2008
God, Republicans are saps. They think that they're running against some academic liberal who wouldn't wear flag pins on his lapel, whose wife isn't proud of America and who went to some liberationist church where the pastor damned his own country. They think they're running against some naïve university-town dreamer, the second coming of Adlai Stevenson.
But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there's Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who'd throw you under the truck for votes.

This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He's the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he's too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.

But he's been giving us an education, for anybody who cares to pay attention. Just try to imagine Mister Rogers playing the agent Ari in "Entourage" and it all falls into place.

Back when he was in the Illinois State Senate, Dr. Barack could have taken positions on politically uncomfortable issues. But Fast Eddie Obama voted "present" nearly 130 times. From time to time, he threw his voting power under the truck.

Dr. Barack said he could no more disown the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than disown his own grandmother. Then the political costs of Rev. Wright escalated and Fast Eddie Obama threw Wright under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have been a workhorse senator. But primary candidates don't do tough votes, so Fast Eddie Obama threw the workhorse duties under the truck.

Dr. Barack could have changed the way presidential campaigning works. John McCain offered to have a series of extended town-hall meetings around the country. But favored candidates don't go in for unscripted free-range conversations. Fast Eddie Obama threw the new-politics mantra under the truck.

And then on Thursday, Fast Eddie Obama had his finest hour. Barack Obama has worked on political reform more than any other issue. He aspires to be to political reform what Bono is to fighting disease in Africa. He's spent much of his career talking about how much he believes in public financing. In January 2007, he told Larry King that the public-financing system works. In February 2007, he challenged Republicans to limit their spending and vowed to do so along with them if he were the nominee. In February 2008, he said he would aggressively pursue spending limits. He answered a Midwest Democracy Network questionnaire by reminding everyone that he has been a longtime advocate of the public-financing system.

But Thursday, at the first breath of political inconvenience, Fast Eddie Obama threw public financing under the truck. In so doing, he probably dealt a death-blow to the cause of campaign-finance reform. And the only thing that changed between Thursday and when he lauded the system is that Obama's got more money now.

And Fast Eddie Obama didn't just sell out the primary cause of his life. He did it with style. He did it with a video so risibly insincere that somewhere down in the shadow world, Lee Atwater is gaping and applauding. Obama blamed the (so far marginal) Republican 527s. He claimed that private donations are really public financing. He made a cut-throat political calculation seem like Mother Teresa's final steps to sainthood.

The media and the activists won't care (they were only interested in campaign-finance reform only when the Republicans had more money). Meanwhile, Obama's money is forever. He's got an army of small donors and a phalanx of big money bundlers, including, according to The Washington Post, Kenneth Griffin of the Citadel Investment Group; Kirk Wager, a Florida trial lawyer; James Crown, a director of General Dynamics; and Neil Bluhm, a hotel, office and casino developer.

I have to admit, I'm ambivalent watching all this. On the one hand, Obama did sell out the primary cause of his professional life, all for a tiny political advantage. If he'll sell that out, what won't he sell out? On the other hand, global affairs ain't beanbag. If we're going to have a president who is going to go toe to toe with the likes of Vladimir Putin, maybe it is better that he should have a ruthlessly opportunist Fast Eddie Obama lurking inside.

All I know for sure is that this guy is no liberal goo-goo. Republicans keep calling him naïve. But naïve is the last word I'd use to describe Barack Obama. He's the most effectively political creature we've seen in decades. Even Bill Clinton wasn't smart enough to succeed in politics by pretending to renounce politics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?hp

Brooks is not the only one who is convinced that Obama is a slick old school killer......I'm hoping that these guys are right about him

Yeah, Finn. The free ride McCain's gotten has been pretty widely documented. do you think it was all in jest when he called the media "my base"?

David Brooks is full of you know what and number 2, Obama refuses to play their little sordid game! They're ALL full of "schitt"!

Considering that the Obama supporters contend their guy is oh so different than old political hacks like John McCain, it would seem that anything (including a free pass from the Media) that draws a comparison between them is bad news for Obama.