Obama '08?

Paul really is a wild card in this... Who knows.

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Ron Paul disagrees with many of Bush/McCain stance on the important issues of our day. He can be a spoiler, but I wonder how effective he'll be.

I think that's the $64,000 question, CI. We ALL wonder how effective he'll be. It's a toss up, for sure. One which could go either way. Effective? Non-effective? Who knows? It is a burning issue for many. Many who have no idea how to vote. What to do. What to think. So someone has to do their thinking for them. Who would be the best? That is yet another $64,000 question. How do we find these bright lights to do our thinking for us? What qualifies them for this position? Another $64,000 question. Where have they been educated? I think that's an important question. Harvard? Isn't that where GW Bush studied? That's no recommendation, is it? Well, we must all give this some deep, deep thought, much as Jack Shandey does. Here's a link to his thoughful, introspective website full of his deep thoughts:

http://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/media.asp?file=077










By the way, who the hell is Ron Paul? No, never mind. Too many characters already in this drama.

YEAH!
I think Obama's chances are not nearly as good as many report.

Just last night I watch Mr. Stipe hold out an Obama T-shirt urging people to vote for the right candidate.
The liberal crowd responded as one would expect, but the many Boo's could not be drowned out...
Both Stipe and his many minions were more than a little stunned by this vocalized resistance to Obama.

WOW! the concert was awesome! R.E.M. rocks!
The digitized visuals were excellent and I really enjoyed my 1st R.E.M. concert

H20Man, you have a spelling error in your post.

Mame, Here's an intro to Ron Paul. If he was a candidate today, he would have the potential to get my vote, even though I don't agree with all of his beliefs - just most.

Ron Paul
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Website RonPaul2008.com

Ronald Ernest Paul (born August 20, 1935) is a Republican United States Congressman from Lake Jackson, Texas, a physician, a bestselling author, and was a 2008 U.S. presidential candidate.

Originally from the Pittsburgh suburb of Green Tree, Pennsylvania, he studied at Duke University School of Medicine; after his 1961 graduation and a residency in obstetrics and gynecology, he became a U.S. Air Force flight surgeon, serving outside the Vietnam War zone. He later represented Texas districts in the U.S. House of Representatives (1976-1977, 1979-1985, and 1997-present). He entered the 1988 presidential election, running as the Libertarian nominee while remaining a registered Republican, and placed a distant third.

Paul has been described as conservative, Constitutionalist, and libertarian.[2] He advocates a foreign policy of nonintervention, having voted against actions such as the Iraq War Resolution, but in favor of force against terrorists in Afghanistan. He favors withdrawal from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the United Nations, citing the dangers of foreign entanglements to national sovereignty. Having pledged never to raise taxes, he has long advocated ending the federal income tax, scaling back government spending, abolishing most federal agencies, and removing military bases and troops from foreign soil; he favors hard money and opposes the Federal Reserve. He also opposes the Patriot Act, the federal War on Drugs, No Child Left Behind, and gun control. Paul is strongly pro-life, and has introduced bills to negate Roe v. Wade, but affirms states' rights to regulate or ban abortion, rather than federal jurisdiction.[3]

While Paul was a leading 2008 presidential candidate in some Republican straw polls, he saw substantially less support in landline opinion polls and in the actual primaries. Strong internet grassroots support was indicated by his popularity as a web search term, his lead in YouTube subscriptions, and, on December 16th 2007, the largest one-day fundraiser in U.S. political history, netting over $6 million in 24 hours through an independently organized effort. His book commenting on the presidential run, The Revolution: A Manifesto, became a bestseller immediately upon release[4][5][6][7][8] and went on to be #1 on the New York Times nonfiction best sellers list.[9]

Could you fix it for me :wink:

I've noticed since you've come out of your water closet that you're a feisty little devil.

Before Obama became the presumptive nominee, geogeob1 and others crowed about how well McCain was doing in the national polls. I pointed out that the polls were more or less irrelevant until Obama was the nominee and it became a fari fight, one against one. And that I expected that Obama would surge to as much as a 15 point lead weeks after he became the presumptive nominee.


Voila! The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama with a 15 point lead.

The enthusiasm gap is tremendous.



http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/23/1161784.aspx

This just adds another layer of trouble on to the Republicans; like a multiplier on Dem advantages. We are much more likely to turn out large numbers of Dems to the polls this cycle, then large numbers of Republicans.

Bodes well for Obama and the Dems in general.

Cycloptichorn

I'm surprised the GOP "enthusiasm" is THAT high.
McCain's not even a Republican...

That's funny, he says he is one. Must be some confusion somewhere.

Cycloptichorn

He's getting old...

He sometimes says so...

Is there any VP which could, like, reignite the excitement?

It seems to me that we could be in for a long, predictable 4 months, in which Obama slightly leads McCain the whole time... without something to shake things up, it's hard to see how McCain will capture the electoral advantage.

Cycloptichorn

Rassmussen, New Mexico -

Obama: 47%
McCain: 39%

Among Independents:

Obama: 41%
McCain: 34%

If Obama wins the states Kerry won (all of which he is currently winning), adds Iowa, New Mexico, and Colorado, he wins the election. He's currently up in all those states as well.

The FL-OH trope is a tired one. An Obama win in OH would probably seal the deal, but there are other ways to win the election....

Cycloptichorn

I am completely out of step with the GOP. Possibly the reincarnation of Jerry Falwell would jazz them... Let me try to channel them...

Certainly Powell--where the hell has he been?

He's been hinting at his support for Obama... dunno if he'll come out and endorse, but he certainly seems to like him.

Powell pretty much disappeared from the scene when he was used up by the Bush cartel.

I thought Powell could swing both ways... A good quality, I think--but I don't see Powell approving leaving the mess in Iraq. Has he come out with his current opinion on Iraq?