Obama '08?

Foxfyre wrote:

okie wrote:

Another interesting tidbit from the Pew site, the number of people according to a poll that either have alot or some confidence in Osama Bin Laden in some Islamic countries ranges from 2% in Lebanon to 60% in Jordan. Other countries in the poll include Turkey at 7%, Morocco at 26%, Indonesia at 35%, and Pakistan at 51%.

ci and cyclops would probably chalk up such concerns over such things merely demonizing a non-problem.

Well, can you think of anybody who is not pro Obama or pro Left who has challenged Muslim extremism or actively challenged Obama or any other pet leftwing sacred cow who has been praised or complimented or even not demonized in these threads--at least somebody who has been pretty active in in depth discussion of these issues? Even those who aren't taking snotty shots smile approvingly or shout out their equivalents of 'right on' as all toadys do.

We must be hitting some pretty raw nerves, you think?

Foxfyre, I think it is a matter of people who are idealistic wanting so desperately to believe that evil does not exist. Confronting something that is wrong takes gumption and it takes work. They would rather pretend the problems do not exist. Also, if you have a moral system of gray areas, it just isn't politically correct to condemn anything or anybody, perhaps even Osama Bin Laden is a nice guy, at least he deserves a trial under our civilian justice system, right?

Im sure that you so called liberals think you are making points in the Obama is the greatest contest by demeaning the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with your genius assaments of the political situation. But all your doing is driving a wedge between people who might eventually come to agree with you. When you talk down to everyone who disagrees with you, you make them angry. Stick with the facts and keep the your a stupid basta-d to yourselves. And by the way this attitude shows something about you and your ability to communicate.

When you don't know what you are talking about, it's better to stay quiet.

cicerone imposter wrote:

When you don't know what you are talking about, it's better to stay quiet.

Advice you have failed to follow since starting here.

Okay, I was snotty and you said it better. But that is one of the lynch pins of liberalism--the belief in the inate goodness of human beings and any who see evil must in fact be the evil ones. I have never been able to figure out why it is more okay to condemn those who see evil, however, than it is to condemn those who do evil. But it's an interesting world.

YOu're falling into the same "trap" as okie, making generalizations without the ability to back it up.

You are talking about the group who made it their mission to demonize Muslim and Arab people over the last several years.

Favorable views of the United States have increased modestly since 2007 in 10 of 21 countries where comparative data are available. Perhaps more importantly, the polling finds many people around the world paying close attention to the U.S. presidential election. Moreover - except in countries that are extremely anti-American - those who are paying attention generally believe the next president may well change U.S. foreign policy for the better. In nearly every country surveyed, greater numbers express confidence in presidential candidate Barack Obama than in John McCain.

You just now wake up to that, cyclops? So do you think we need millions of immigrants from Turkey and Pakistan, and if people are flying here from there, do you think they might deserve more scrutiny, or is that demonizing them?

You just now wake up to that, cyclops? So do you think we need millions of immigrants from Turkey and Pakistan, and if people are flying here from there, do you think they might deserve more scrutiny, or is that demonizing them?

okie wrote:

You just now wake up to that, cyclops? So do you think we need millions of immigrants from Turkey and Pakistan, and if people are flying here from there, do you think they might deserve more scrutiny, or is that demonizing them?

Demonizing. One of the best ways to get people to hate you even worse, is to treat them as if they deserve suspicion and hate.

You gotta be a friend, to make friends...

Cycloptichorn[/quo


physician heal thyself

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

You just now wake up to that, cyclops? So do you think we need millions of immigrants from Turkey and Pakistan, and if people are flying here from there, do you think they might deserve more scrutiny, or is that demonizing them?

Demonizing. One of the best ways to get people to hate you even worse, is to treat them as if they deserve suspicion and hate.

You gotta be a friend, to make friends...

Cycloptichorn

physician heal thyself

You just now wake up to that, cyclops? So do you think we need millions of immigrants from Turkey and Pakistan, and if people are flying here from there, do you think they might deserve more scrutiny, or is that demonizing them?