Obama '08?

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama collected the support of four of John Edwards' Democratic National Convention delegates on Thursday, then gained the backing of four superdelegates and a large labor union as he marched steadily toward the party's presidential nomination.

The fact is that they are currently paying the lowest rates that they have paid in modern history. That is going to change pretty soon, and yaknow what? I bet things keep ticking along just fine for everyone.

Cycloptichorn

I don't know but this forum seems to be filled Republicans, finding fault with and nit-picking racists, who question every move Obama makes. If Hillary had kept her lead, they'd be yelling their heads off about Bill! So go and find fault with your "elitist", ex-POW, who after 2 decades in the senate, hasn't done ONE thing for Veterans, YET!

Then you have Dubya, running off at the mouth over in Israel, calling Obama a Nazi and wow, will that ever go over well, huh? Who is HE to question ANYONE'S Patriotism? The WORSE pResident, on record! That's what you get, when you let the Supreme Court decide an election, then have your brother STEAL it, for you!
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Cycloptichorn wrote:

The fact is that they are currently paying the lowest rates that they have paid in modern history. That is going to change pretty soon, and yaknow what? I bet things keep ticking along just fine for everyone.

Cycloptichorn

Perhaps they should consider the flat tax, or fair tax. But making rich folks pay more is only gonna make them move their money elsewhere so you get even less. You're the stupid one, not me, or them.

teenyboone wrote:

I don't know but this forum seems to be filled Republicans, finding fault with and nit-picking racists, who question every move Obama makes. If Hillary had kept her lead, they'd be yelling their heads off about Bill! So go and find fault with your "elitist", ex-POW, who after 2 decades in the senate, hasn't done ONE thing for Veterans, YET!

Then you have Dubya, running off at the mouth over in Israel, calling Obama a Nazi and wow, will that ever go over well, huh? Who is HE to question ANYONE'S Patriotism? The WORSE pResident, on record! That's what you get, when you let the Supreme Court decide an election, then have your brother STEAL it, for you!
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Not quite filled with Republicans, not even a big minority I bet, more like a small minority. And it is our freedom of speech to point out the deficiencies of the opposition. And you can't say I haven't bemoaned the idea of not having somebody better representing the Republican Party, I only will vote for him as a last resort.

Bush won the presidency fair and square, luckily after Gore tried to steal it by recounting only some of the votes.

P.S. Bush did not mention the name, Obama, but if the shoe fits, I guess people are filling in the blanks, don't blame Bush for Obama's policy positions, blame Obama, he is the one holding the postion. Bush only criticized the policy.

teenyboone wrote:

I don't know but this forum seems to be filled Republicans, finding fault with and nit-picking racists, who question every move Obama makes. If Hillary had kept her lead, they'd be yelling their heads off about Bill! So go and find fault with your "elitist", ex-POW, who after 2 decades in the senate, hasn't done ONE thing for Veterans, YET!

Then you have Dubya, running off at the mouth over in Israel, calling Obama a Nazi and wow, will that ever go over well, huh? Who is HE to question ANYONE'S Patriotism? The WORSE pResident, on record! That's what you get, when you let the Supreme Court decide an election, then have your brother STEAL it, for you!
:wink:

Not quite filled with Republicans, not even a big minority I bet, more like a small minority. And it is our freedom of speech to point out the deficiencies of the opposition. And you can't say I haven't bemoaned the idea of not having somebody better representing the Republican Party, I only will vote for him as a last resort.

Bush won the presidency fair and square, luckily after Gore tried to steal it by recounting only some of the votes.

P.S. Bush did not mention the name, Obama, but if the shoe fits, I guess people are filling in the blanks, don't blame Bush for Obama's policy positions, blame Obama, he is the one holding the postion. Bush only criticized the policy.

I've seen your crappy logic firsthand, cyclops, with people turning down higher paying jobs because there was little or no benefit after taxes. Why work harder for little or no benefit. You call that crappy logic? That is human nature.

First, thanks for being honest! Now, tell me what year did he, (Bush), win? I guess rigging an election is fair game, huh?

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Think for yourself, do not swallow all the bilge fed you

Here I thought, politics ended at the border. After all, this is the line that you bunch have been pushing for years.

Cycloptichorn

Okie eagerly chows down on his daily dose of bilge.

Subsequent investigations proved Bush won.

Analysis: Bush rallies Democrats behind Obama
by Klaus Marre
05/15/08


President Bush achieved from abroad Thursday what Democratic leaders at home have failed to do: bring the Democratic Party together at the tail end of a bruising primary.

With his perceived criticism of Sen. Barack Obamas (D) push for diplomacy from the floor of the Knesset, Israel's parliament, Bush managed to unite Democrats behind the man who is the partys likely next standard-bearer.

Prominent uncommitted Democrats, such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) and Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden (Del.), strongly criticized the president for what is viewed as an attack on Obama.

At issue are Bushs remarks in Israel in which he said it is a foolish delusion to think that negotiations with terrorists and radicals would yield results.

With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clintons (D-N.Y.) chances of winning the nomination waning, Democrats are increasingly turning their sights on getting the party onto the same page for the general election.

Many have called for a unity ticket or for a strong voice, such as that of former vice president Al Gore, to rise above the noise of the campaign and sort things out. But with Clinton vowing to stay in the race and many superdelegates still uncommitted, there has also been the prospect that the nomination will drag out until the convention, a scenario that many Democrats fear because they think the party would have too little time to heal before the match-up with presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has sought to get superdelegates to commit to a candidate by the end of June, but, with the uncertainty over what will happen to delegates from Florida and Michigan, he has been unable to assuage fears that the primary will continue until the party meets in Denver at the end of August.

However, with his comments, Bush might have succeeded where Dean has failed.

The presidents remarks seem to suggest that he believes Obama will be the Democratic candidate.

Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along, Bush said in his address. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided. We have an obligation to call this what it is the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.

Obama called this part of Bushs speech a false political attack.

Though the White House said the remarks were not aimed at Obama, who has advocated using diplomacy with countries such as Iran, Democrats immediately came to the aid of the front-runner for their presidential nomination.

Pelosi, noting that it is tradition for U.S. politicians to refrain from criticizing the president while he is overseas, said one would think that would also apply to the president when hes abroad, before adding, His comments were beneath the dignity of the office of the president.

Reid called the remarks reckless and reprehensible.

Biden, a onetime rival of Obama before dropping out of the race, was even more outspoken.

This is bulls--t. This is malarkey, Biden said. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country ... and make this kind of ridiculous statement.

Obama supporter Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said the White House claim that the statement was not directed at Obama is baloney.

Lets be honest about it. Theres one candidate who has spoken out and clearly on this issue, and it was very clear to me the reference that was made, Durbin said, adding, I dont know if this has ever happened before in history, where a sitting president has gone to a foreign country and spoken to their parliament and criticized a political candidate from his own country.

Among the Democratic superdelegates to endorse Obama on Thursday was House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman (D-Calif.).

Barack Obama has laid out a foreign policy vision driven by principle and conviction, and he understands that our moral authority and our safety as a nation go hand in hand, Berman said.

Combined with the math speaking increasingly in favor of Obama, a steady trickle of superdelegates flowing toward the Illinois senator and the endorsement of former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), Bush might have helped close the book on Clintons ambition.

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Analysis: Bush rallies Democrats behind Obama
by Klaus Marre
05/15/08


President Bush achieved from abroad Thursday what Democratic leaders at home have failed to do: bring the Democratic Party together at the tail end of a bruising primary.

With his perceived criticism of Sen. Barack Obamas (D) push for diplomacy from the floor of the Knesset, Israel's parliament, Bush managed to unite Democrats behind the man who is the partys likely next standard-bearer.

Prominent uncommitted Democrats, such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) and Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden (Del.), strongly criticized the president for what is viewed as an attack on Obama.

At issue are Bushs remarks in Israel in which he said it is a foolish delusion to think that negotiations with terrorists and radicals would yield results.

With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clintons (D-N.Y.) chances of winning the nomination waning, Democrats are increasingly turning their sights on getting the party onto the same page for the general election.

Many have called for a unity ticket or for a strong voice, such as that of former vice president Al Gore, to rise above the noise of the campaign and sort things out. But with Clinton vowing to stay in the race and many superdelegates still uncommitted, there has also been the prospect that the nomination will drag out until the convention, a scenario that many Democrats fear because they think the party would have too little time to heal before the match-up with presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has sought to get superdelegates to commit to a candidate by the end of June, but, with the uncertainty over what will happen to delegates from Florida and Michigan, he has been unable to assuage fears that the primary will continue until the party meets in Denver at the end of August.

However, with his comments, Bush might have succeeded where Dean has failed.

The presidents remarks seem to suggest that he believes Obama will be the Democratic candidate.

Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along, Bush said in his address. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided. We have an obligation to call this what it is the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.

Obama called this part of Bushs speech a false political attack.

Though the White House said the remarks were not aimed at Obama, who has advocated using diplomacy with countries such as Iran, Democrats immediately came to the aid of the front-runner for their presidential nomination.

Pelosi, noting that it is tradition for U.S. politicians to refrain from criticizing the president while he is overseas, said one would think that would also apply to the president when hes abroad, before adding, His comments were beneath the dignity of the office of the president.

Reid called the remarks reckless and reprehensible.

Biden, a onetime rival of Obama before dropping out of the race, was even more outspoken.

This is bulls--t. This is malarkey, Biden said. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country ... and make this kind of ridiculous statement.

Obama supporter Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said the White House claim that the statement was not directed at Obama is baloney.

Lets be honest about it. Theres one candidate who has spoken out and clearly on this issue, and it was very clear to me the reference that was made, Durbin said, adding, I dont know if this has ever happened before in history, where a sitting president has gone to a foreign country and spoken to their parliament and criticized a political candidate from his own country.

Among the Democratic superdelegates to endorse Obama on Thursday was House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman (D-Calif.).

Barack Obama has laid out a foreign policy vision driven by principle and conviction, and he understands that our moral authority and our safety as a nation go hand in hand, Berman said.

Combined with the math speaking increasingly in favor of Obama, a steady trickle of superdelegates flowing toward the Illinois senator and the endorsement of former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), Bush might have helped close the book on Clintons ambition.

The president did not name Sen. Barack Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged to CNN that the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party.

Thanks George!

Oh, and Natalie Maines would like to know if it's now okay for the country music station fans to start burning photos of you for going to a foreign country to speak disparagingly of a presidential candidate to that country's parliment.

The president, at Israel's 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem, suggested that some Democrats were acting in the same way some Western leaders did when they appeased Hitler in the runup to World War II.

"As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is: the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history," he said while speaking to Israel's parliament, the Knesset.

"This is bulls**t. This is malarkey. This is outrageous. Outrageous for the president of the United States to go to a foreign country, sit in the Knesset ... and make this kind of ridiculous statement," he said.

"He's the guy who's weakened us. He's the guy that's increased the number of terrorists in the world. His policies have produced this vulnerability the United States has."