Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 10:23 am
okie wrote:
It will be fun, cyclops. You thought you had it in the bag with Gore, the global warming guru and internet inventor, then with the great John Kerry that served in Vietnam in case you forgot, the guy that saluted in Boston and said reporting for duty, but he forgot that he hadn't been elected yet, now the messiah, Obama, is your next great hope to the promised land with your fellow travelers.

Yes, Hope, Courage, Audacity, and Change, I am feeling inspired. Laughing


I voted against Gore. You're right about Kerry, though; I did think he would win. However, Obama is a much better candidate then Kerry, as I think you will admit. And the times have changed somewhat in the last 4 years.

Cycloptichorn
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candidone1
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 10:27 am
I find it hilarious that many of you yahoos on the right criticize Obama for campaigning on the prospect of hope and change in the US....but when it was Bush championing hope and change in Iraq, y'all were singin' praises for his war.

Are you all so negative because you don't really think America can change, or is willing to change, or are you secretly hoping that any positive changes Obama might attempt will be resisted and, ultimately shot down by your team so you can all say...."see?....change, my ass. Hope, my ass. What a fool."
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 10:41 am
candidone1 wrote:
I find it hilarious that many of you yahoos on the right criticize Obama for campaigning on the prospect of hope and change in the US....but when it was Bush championing hope and change in Iraq, y'all were singin' praises for his war.

Are you all so negative because you don't really think America can change, or is willing to change, or are you secretly hoping that any positive changes Obama might attempt will be resisted and, ultimately shot down by your team so you can all say...."see?....change, my ass. Hope, my ass. What a fool."


They don't want the positive changes. See, Conservatives and Republicans have profited mightily off of the current situation. Low taxes for the rich, money from the war pumped into their coffers, corruption, social issues dividing America; they like these things and actively promote them at every opportunity.

So when we say 'change' in many ways it means a negative for them. An America with more equality, they see as less money (for the rich, fiscal Republicans, and those who would see themselves that way) and less influence for their people (the White, social conservative Republicans who want the country ran by THEIR morals and THEIR rules all the time).

Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 10:47 am
nimh wrote:
Lash wrote:
Edwards kills Hill...film at 6:20....He took her out.

Oh, what Soz said - she was already dead. Expired. Off the twig, kicked the bucket, shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible. This is all just after the fact.

I thought she was on life support for some last second murderous assassination of Obama--that thing I've been waiting on. I don't count Bill and Hillary Clinton out yet...you know how miracle moves can change everything...maybe I overestimated them...or underestimated...
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OCCOM BILL
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:05 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
okie wrote:
I love how you are so confident, cyclops, but if the election was held now:

Electoral Votes: Obama 237 McCain 290 Ties 11

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May15.html

And how many more shoes will drop with Obama between now and November?

Don't you think Hillary has a point?


Naturally, this is why we have campaigns.

Look at these states:

Virginia 13
North Carolina 15
South Carolina 8
Michigan 17
Florida 27
Ohio 20
Wisconsin 10
New Mexico 5
Nebraska 5

These are all listed in McCain's column, but ALL the polls are within the margin of error. We literally don't know if McCain is actually in the lead in these states or Obama is. Flip half of them and Obama wins. Obama will split Nebraska for sure.

States where Obama leads, but it's in the margin of error:

Colorado 9

Hmm. Not looking so hot there for flipping the blue states over.

The idea that McCain has a lock on these states, or those electoral votes, is a joke. Obama hasn't even started to ramp up his game. His choice of VP could easily flip one of the southern states.

I'm still confident, and in fact, this map makes me more confident then ever. I had thought that more of McCain's lead was outside the Margin of Error.

Cycloptichorn
Laughing Wisconsin? There is virtually no chance of that happening. I seriously doubt Michigan as well. Those two alone tip the scales.

The gamblers have Obama at 3 to 2 to win the Presidency... and Hillary hasn't even left yet.
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cjhsa
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:07 am
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:09 am
cjhsa wrote:
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.


Yes, low taxes for the rich. Taxes on the highest brackets are at the lowest level they've been at in the last 70 years.

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:40 am
(Endorsements are flowin' today. United Steelworkers, Henry Waxman, Howard Berman, Jim McDermott, and more...)
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:40 am
sozobe wrote:
(Endorsements are flowin' today. United Steelworkers, Henry Waxman, Howard Berman, Jim McDermott, and more...)


Waxman! Yay

Cycloptichorn
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cjhsa
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:42 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.


Yes, low taxes for the rich. Taxes on the highest brackets are at the lowest level they've been at in the last 70 years.

Cycloptichorn


What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The rich got reamed for 70 years. They still pay a far greater percentage of the taxes collected than any other segment. You jackasses just love to spin things - having learned it from Bill Douchebag.
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sozobe
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:43 am
Yeah, Waxman! I'd thought he was a Hillary guy for some reason... when I put his endorsement up for work I thought it'd be a switch, but evidently he was uncommitted until now (or else I'd just missed him).
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:44 am
You know, he could win.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:44 am
cjhsa wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.


Yes, low taxes for the rich. Taxes on the highest brackets are at the lowest level they've been at in the last 70 years.

Cycloptichorn


What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The rich got reamed for 70 years. They still pay a far greater percentage of the taxes collected than any other segment. You jackasses just love to spin things - having learned it from Bill Douchebag.


What a crock of ****. The rich OWN a higher percentage of our country then at any point in the last 70 or so years. They have profitted mightily the entire time. Their taxes are at historical lows; you are completely wrong. They pay a larger segment of their income, yet their income has risen to the point where they still profit tremendous amounts.

Not that there's anything new with you being completely wrong about things.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:45 am
Lash wrote:
You know, he could win.


He being Obama?

If you support him, then yes! He could win.

Cycloptichorn
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FreeDuck
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:45 am
Lash wrote:
You know, he could win.


Strange, isn't it?
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maporsche
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:45 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Lash wrote:
You know, he could win.


Strange, isn't it?


Unfortunate is what it is Freeduck.
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cjhsa
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:46 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.


Yes, low taxes for the rich. Taxes on the highest brackets are at the lowest level they've been at in the last 70 years.

Cycloptichorn


What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The rich got reamed for 70 years. They still pay a far greater percentage of the taxes collected than any other segment. You jackasses just love to spin things - having learned it from Bill Douchebag.


What a crock of ****. The rich OWN a higher percentage of our country then at any point in the last 70 or so years. They have profitted mightily the entire time. Their taxes are at historical lows; you are completely wrong. They pay a larger segment of their income, yet their income has risen to the point where they still profit tremendous amounts.

Not that there's anything new with you being completely wrong about things.

Cycloptichorn


You conceded my point. So what the hell am I wrong about?
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FreeDuck
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:48 am
maporsche wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
Lash wrote:
You know, he could win.


Strange, isn't it?


Unfortunate is what it is Freeduck.


Still afraid he's going to steal your pea shooter?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:51 am
cjhsa wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Low taxes for the rich? Huh? Cyclops, please take your meds.


Yes, low taxes for the rich. Taxes on the highest brackets are at the lowest level they've been at in the last 70 years.

Cycloptichorn


What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The rich got reamed for 70 years. They still pay a far greater percentage of the taxes collected than any other segment. You jackasses just love to spin things - having learned it from Bill Douchebag.


What a crock of ****. The rich OWN a higher percentage of our country then at any point in the last 70 or so years. They have profitted mightily the entire time. Their taxes are at historical lows; you are completely wrong. They pay a larger segment of their income, yet their income has risen to the point where they still profit tremendous amounts.

Not that there's anything new with you being completely wrong about things.

Cycloptichorn


You conceded my point. So what the hell am I wrong about?


Your point had nothing to do with my original point, so you were wrong to begin with.

Your opinion about the level of taxation of the rich is immaterial (and stupid). The fact is that they are currently paying the lowest rates that they have paid in modern history. That is going to change pretty soon, and yaknow what? I bet things keep ticking along just fine for everyone.

Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 15 May, 2008 11:53 am
Freeduck! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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